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- Mormons believe that if there is a conflict between science and religion, that the science is incorrect.
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- Some Mormons may believe this. Many others believe that there is no true conflict between science and religion, but realize that scientific ideas may be inaccurate based on limited data, or that religious understandings or preconceptions may need to be modified. The Church believes that the Lord "will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God" (A+of+F 1꞉9), which presupposes that previous ideas may be inadequate.
- Mormonism and science
Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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- Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2nd edition, (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), no page number given. GL direct link
- Note: this reference is useless for establishing what statement of Elder McConkie's is being referenced.
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- Mormonism reserves the right to identify scientific truth.
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Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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136
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- Mormonism declares that it "corners the market" on religious truth.
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- The author's claim is false: Latter-day Saints recognize that there is truth and good in all religions, and that God works through men of science to reveal truth as well.
- Salvation of non-members
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136
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- Joseph Smith declared that all other religions were false.
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- Have the Presbyterians any truth? Yes. Have the Baptists, Methodists, etc., any truth? Yes. They all have a little truth mixed with error. We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true "Mormons."[2]
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136
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- LDS think that all other religions are the "whore of the earth" and "church of the devil"
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136
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- The current generation of Mormons is taught a selective view of Church history
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Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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- Boyd K. Packer, "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater than the Intellect," BYU Studies, 21:259 (1981)
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137
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- Many church members are "blissfully unaware" of Brigham Young's practice of polygamy
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- Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.: how does the author know what members know? Brigham Young's polygamy is well known out of the Church. How likely is it that members remain unaware?
- Brigham Young and polygamy
Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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- Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, 1997
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137
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- Senior church leaders prefer that members not question changes in temple ordinances.
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- Church leaders "prefer" that members keep their covenants and not discuss the temple ordinances outside the temple.
- Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.: members may discuss the endowment only in the temple; they may ask any question they like there of the temple president.
- Temple endowment changes
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138
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- LDS ecclesiastical leaders expect "unquestioning obedience" of church members.
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- Most bishops and stake presidents would find this unlikely, if not laughable.
- The author is a former LDS bishop. Did he go contrary to Church teaching and demand this? If so, his action was wrong. If not, he is evidence against his own claim.
- Authoritarianism and Church leaders
- Dallin H. Oaks, "Unselfish Service," Ensign (May 2009): 93–96. off-site
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139
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- The Church "unofficially" discourages prayer to "Mother in Heaven"
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- Surely it is the Church's privilege to instruct its members in what it believes and condones, and what it does not? Members then make their own decision.
- Heavenly Mother
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- AAUP Committee on Academic Freedom and Tenure. 1998. "Report of Committee A," Academe: Bulletin of the American Association of University Professors. Sept./Oct.: 71-4.
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140
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- Church leaders are "loath" to make unequivocal statements of doctrine.
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- Absurd claim: a review of any general conference demonstrates that leaders are quite happy to make unequivocal statements.
- If an area has no unequivocal statements, this is probably because it is not "doctrine," and the Church has no official position. Leaders are rightly wary of being misconstrued in such areas.
- Changing doctrine
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140
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- BYU's emphasis is on conformity rather than personal freedom.
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- Absurd claim: the only source is the student honor code. How does this erode personal freedom? Every prospective student is aware of it, and agrees to abide by it. If he/she wants to do otherwise, he/she can easily choose to go elsewhere.
- Authoritarianism and Church leaders
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- Student Honor Code, Brigham Young University
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141
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- CES insists that gospel learning takes precedence over secular learning.
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- Absurd claim: Why is it strange that a group hired for religious instruction to supplement college or university work should want religion taught?
- Mormonism and education [needs work]
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- The only sources referred to are "parents."
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142
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- CES instructs students not to attempt to locate Book of Mormon geographical locations
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- Members are encouraged not to focus on the geography to the exclusion of the Book's more important spiritual message. BYU and FARMS (now the Maxwell Institute) have published a great deal of member scholarship on geography, however. If the Church opposed this, it could easily be stopped.
- No official geography
- The work repeats itself: p. 43.
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142
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- Limited geography theories advanced by FARMS are "much too controversial" for CES students
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142
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- Spencer W. Kimball believed in a hemispheric Book of Mormon geography
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- A talk by President Kimball given in 1977 (not listed in "Works Cited" section)
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142
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- Church members are shocked at the "limited archaeological evidence" for the Book of Mormon
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Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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- LDS apologists continue to tell members how "scientists continue to get it wrong."
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- Absurd claim: DNA apologists, for example, are world-class experts in their field. These authors object to the misappropriate and misapplication of science.
- Michael F. Whiting, "DNA and the Book of Mormon: A Phylogenetic Perspective," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [24–35] link
- John M. Butler, "Addressing Questions surrounding the Book of Mormon and DNA Research," FARMS Review 18/1 (2006): 101–108. off-site wiki
- John M. Butler, "A Few Thoughts From a Believing DNA Scientist," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [36–37] link
- D. Jeffrey Meldrum and Trent D. Stephens, "Who Are the Children of Lehi?," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [38–51] link
- Apologetics
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143
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- Most members follow their leaders without question.
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- Most bishops and stake presidents would find this unlikely, if not laughable.
- The author is a former LDS bishop. Did he go contrary to Church teaching and demand this? If so, his action was wrong. If not, he is evidence against his own claim.
Logical Fallacy: Bandwagon (Appeal to the Masses)—The author believes that this claim is true simply because all of his or her buddies believe that it is true, despite the lack of actual evidence supporting it.The author frequently makes claims about what "most Mormons" believe. How does he know? What surveys has he done? The author strives to portray members as gullible, ill-informed, confused, and manipulated. But, he presents no evidence save his opinion. Why ought members trust someone who obviously has such a low opinion of them?
The work repeats itself on p. 42, 135., 135-136., 136., 137., 142., 143., 197., 200., and 202-203.
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- LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the creation of man.
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143
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- LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the tower of Babel.
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143
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- LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the Flood
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- The perception is that the Church has officially denounced evolution.
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- This perception, however, is false.
- Evolution: all official statements.
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- McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979.
- Boyd K. Packer, "Our Moral Environment," Ensign, May 1992, p. 66. (This talk does not specifically mention the theory of evolution - Packer is stating that we are not simply "advanced animals," which the author includes in his quote.)
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144
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- Henry Eyring (father of Henry B. Eyring) indicated that he could accept evolution.
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- If a well-known scientist could publicly express support for evolution and differ with some Church leaders, how does this contribute to the "perception" that the Church has "officially denounced evolution"?
- The book cited was published and distributed to LDS youth—hardly the act of a Church trying to stamp out any support for evolution.
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- Henry Eyring, Reflections of a Scientist, 1998.
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- Eyring "avoided singling out senior leaders of the church for the bad press that evolution has received in LDS circles."
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- Eyring was not shy about demonstrating where he and (say) President Joseph Fielding Smith differed on this subject.
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- Henry Eyring, Reflections of a Scientist, 1998.
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146
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- The Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri
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146
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- Mormons believe that the continents separated only after a global flood.
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- Some Mormons believe this. Others do not. The Church has no official view on the matter.
- Global or local Flood
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146
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- Mormons are "compelled" to believe in a global flood as symbolizing the "baptism of the earth"
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- Absurd claim: how can Mormons be "compelled" to believe in anything?
- Some Mormons believe this. Others do not. The Church has no official view on the matter.
- Global or local Flood
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- FARMS' goal is to deter members from reading any book that challenges their faith
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- The author states that this is an "obvious" conclusion.
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