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===Claims made in "Chapter 6: Siblings from Eternity Past"=== | ===Claims made in "Chapter 6: Siblings from Eternity Past"=== | ||
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Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother "through some kind of sexual union" clothed each of us with a spirit body. | |||
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* {{FalseStatement}}: the means of spirit creation are not known. The source nowhere makes the author's claim. | * {{FalseStatement}}: the means of spirit creation are not known. The source nowhere makes the author's claim. | ||
*{{SourceDistortion}}: [[../../Use of sources/Spirits conceived through sexual union|Spirits conceived through sexual union?]] | *{{SourceDistortion}}: [[../../Use of sources/Spirits conceived through sexual union|Spirits conceived through sexual union?]] | ||
*[[Becoming_Gods#"Celestial sex"|"Celestial sex"]] | *[[Becoming_Gods#"Celestial sex"|"Celestial sex"]] | ||
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*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', 750. | *Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', 750. | ||
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====156, 394 n. 28-31==== | ====156, 394 n. 28-31==== | ||
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The belief in a "Heavenly Mother" is not supported by scripture and was simply added by Joseph Smith so that his views about God "would make sense." | |||
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* {{SourceDistortion}}: none of the cited LDS sources make the claim that Joseph "simply added" the belief so his views "would make sense." | * {{SourceDistortion}}: none of the cited LDS sources make the claim that Joseph "simply added" the belief so his views "would make sense." | ||
* {{MindReading}} | * {{MindReading}} | ||
*[[Heavenly Mother]] | *[[Nature of God/Heavenly Mother]] | ||
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*Milton R. Hunter, ''The Gospel Through the Ages'', p. 98. | *Milton R. Hunter, ''The Gospel Through the Ages'', p. 98. | ||
*Cannon, in Daniel H. Ludlow, vol. 2, p. 961. | *Cannon, in Daniel H. Ludlow, vol. 2, p. 961. | ||
*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', p. 516. | *Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', p. 516. | ||
*{{Ensign|author=Gordon B. Hinckley|article=Daughters of God|date=Nov. 1991|start=100}} {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=956a94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD}} | *{{Ensign|author=Gordon B. Hinckley|article=Daughters of God|date=Nov. 1991|start=100}} {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=956a94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD}} | ||
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According to Brigham Young, our spirit body was created via a sexual union of Heavenly Father and Mother. | |||
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*[[Becoming_Gods#"Celestial sex"|"Celestial sex"]] | *[[Becoming_Gods#"Celestial sex"|"Celestial sex"]] | ||
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*{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|disc=19|vol=11|start=123}} | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|disc=19|vol=11|start=123}} | ||
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*[[Heavenly Mother]] | LDS belief in a "queen of heaven" is a pagan belief. | ||
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*[[Nature of God/Heavenly Mother]] | |||
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*{{s||Jeremiah|7|17-19}} | *{{s||Jeremiah|7|17-19}} | ||
*{{s||Jeremiah|44|17-19}} | *{{s||Jeremiah|44|17-19}} | ||
*{{s||Jeremiah|44|25-27}} | *{{s||Jeremiah|44|25-27}} | ||
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Claims made in "Chapter 6: Siblings from Eternity Past"
154
Claim
Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother "through some kind of sexual union" clothed each of us with a spirit body.
Author's source(s)
- Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 750.
Response
- The author's claim is false: the means of spirit creation are not known. The source nowhere makes the author's claim.
- Misrepresentation of source: Spirits conceived through sexual union?
- "Celestial sex"
156, 394 n. 28-31
Claim
The belief in a "Heavenly Mother" is not supported by scripture and was simply added by Joseph Smith so that his views about God "would make sense."
Author's source(s)
- Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 98.
- Cannon, in Daniel H. Ludlow, vol. 2, p. 961.
- Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 516.
- Gordon B. Hinckley, "Daughters of God," Ensign (Nov. 1991): 100. off-site
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: none of the cited LDS sources make the claim that Joseph "simply added" the belief so his views "would make sense."
- Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.
- Nature of God/Heavenly Mother
157
Claim
According to Brigham Young, our spirit body was created via a sexual union of Heavenly Father and Mother.
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 11:123.
Response
162
Claim
LDS belief in a "queen of heaven" is a pagan belief.
Author's source(s)
Response