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Revision as of 04:58, 3 July 2009


A work by author: Dr. Simon G. Southerton

Index to claims made in Losing a Lost Tribe: Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church

This is an index of claims made in this work with links to corresponding responses within the FAIR Wiki. An effort has been made to provide the author's original sources where possible.

Introduction

Page Claim Response Use of sources

xiii
  • The Book of Mormon talks primarily of a small group of Jews who sailed from Jerusalem in 600 B.C.
  • No specific verse given. This is an incorrect statement.—Lehi was a descendant of Manasseh, and was not a Jew, however, author later makes the correct statement regarding Lehi's ancestry on page 5.

xiii
  • Mormons believe that the dark skinned race constitutes the principal ancestors of the American Indians
  • This is based upon a phrase added in the 1981 introduction to the Book of Mormon.
  • The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.

xiv
  • Joseph Smith claimed that the Book of Mormon was the most correct book on earth.
  • No source given.
  • The common source for this statement is History of The Church 4:461

xiv
  • The Israelites are said to have arrived in a land kept from the knowledge of other nations.

xiv
  • There is no mention of any non-Israelite people in the New World.
  • None given.

xiv
  • The Book of Mormon describes the farming of Old World domesticated plants.
  • None given.

xiv
  • The Book of Mormon mentions horse, oxen, cattle and goats in the New World.
  • None given.

xv
  • Little has been discovered to support the civilizations described in the Book of Mormon.
  • No specific sources.
  • General reference to "anthropologists and archaeologists."

xv
  • The Mesoamerican cultures worshipped multiple gods and performed human sacrifice, which is not consistent with the culture of the Book of Mormon people.
  • The Book of Mormon Nephite culture is a minority culture in a larger cultural "sea." Human sacrifice and idol worship are mentioned by wicked Book of Mormon peoples.
  • See Brant A. Gardner, Second Witness: Analytical and Contextual Commentary on the Book of Mormon, 6 Vols. (Salt Lake City, UT: Greg Kofford Books, 2007), all 6 vols:1–. for a close reading of the Book of Mormon in just such a context.
  • None given

xv
  • Many LDS scholars criticise mainstream scientific views in their defense of the Book of Mormon.
  • Without evidence this is a difficult claim to assess.
  • Can no mainstream view be challenged? Are all such views inherently correct?
  • None given

xv
  • The Church employs academics to professionally defend the Book of Mormon.
  • None given.
  • This is an accusation frequently made on anti-Mormon discussion boards.

xv
  • The weight of evidence has forced LDS scholars to scale back the scope of the Book of Mormon.
  • None given.

xvi
  • LDS leaders ignore LDS scholarship and continue to teach that Native Americans and Polynesians are literal descendants of the Israelites.
  • If Lehi existed, then all Amerindians and Polynesians are his literal descendants. They are simply not exclusively his descendants.
  • All from Lehi?
  • None given

Chapter 1: A Chosen Race in a Promised Land

Page Claim Response Use of sources

3
  • Attempts to describe Mormon doctrine are "fraught with peril."
  • Author's opinion.

3
  • Reversals of doctrine regarding polygamy and regarding Blacks and the priesthood were "painful and damaging" to the Church.
  • Author's opinion.
  • No examples of the "pain" and "damage" are provided.

4
  • The idea that the words of living prophets supersede the words of dead prophets has been "recently" promoted.
  •  Absurd claim: This has always been the doctrine of the Church:
[When invited by Joseph Smith], Brother Brigham took the stand, and he took the Bible, and laid it down; he took the Book of Mormon, and laid it down; and he took the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, and laid it down before him, and he said: "There is the written word of God to us, concerning the work of God from the beginning of the world, almost, to our day. And now,' said he, 'when compared with the living oracles those books are nothing to me; those books do not convey the word of God direct to us now, as do the words of a Prophet or a man bearing the Holy Priesthood in our day and generation. I would rather have the living oracles than all the writing in the books.' That was the course he pursued. When he was through, Brother Joseph said to the congregation, "Brother Brigham has told you the word of the Lord, and he has told you the truth.'"[1]
  • If living prophets outrank scriptures, then living prophets clearly supersede dead prophets: whether written or spoken.
  • Changing doctrine
  • No source given.

4
  • Mormon doctrine is "fluid and changeable."
  • No source given.

7-8
  • The Nephites raise "herds of cattle, goats and horses."
  • No source given.

8
  • The Nephites raise Old World wheat and barley.
  • No source given.

8
  • The Nephites construct a temple that is "similar in splendor" to Solomon's.

8
  • The Nephites are skilled in the use of metals such as iron, copper, brass, gold and silver.
  • No source given.

8
  • The Nephites use steel to fashion swords, breastplates, and arm and head shields.
  • No source given.

8
  • The Nephites built defensive mounds around their cities.
  • No source given.

8
  • The Lamanites vastly outnumber the Nephites.
  • No source given.

8
  • The "skin of blackness" is occasionally removed from the Lamanites when they are righteous, and returns to the Lamanites when they become unrighteous.
 * No source given

8
  • The Book of Mormon links the color of a person's skin to morality.

9
  • The Book of Mormon promotes the view that the "white race" is superior.
  • No source given.

10
  • In 1966 the Book of Abraham papyri were discovered.
  • Note that the author only cites a critic on this point; none of the voluminous LDS scholarship is even mentioned, much less engaged.
  • Book of Abraham papyri
  • Charles M. Larson, By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus: A New Look at the Joseph Smith Papyri, 2nd ed., (Grand Rapids, MI: Institute for Religious Research, 1992), no pg. given.

10
  • The translation of the papyri does not resemble the Book of Abraham.
  • Larson, 1992

10
  • The denial of the priesthood to the Blacks was based upon the Book of Abraham.
  • No source given.

10-11
  • The Church publicly taught racist principles in the 1950's.
  • Mark E. Petersen, "Race Problems—As They Affect the Church," Talk given at Brigham Young University on Aug. 27, 1954

11
  • The 1978 revelation allowing all men to hold the priesthood came in response to "public pressure."
  • No source given.

12
  • Many General Authorities believed that the priesthood prohibition would remain in place until Christ's return.
  • No source given.

12
  • Passages in the Book of Mormon were rewritten to "tone down references to skin color."

12
  • LDS scripture states that those with lighter skin color "are favored because of what they did as spirits in a pre-earth life."
  • No source given.

Chapter 2: Race Relations in Colonial America

Page Claim Response Use of sources

17
  • A similarity exists between the degraded Lamanites and the Native Americans of the 19th Century.
  • Note again only a dated anti-Mormon work is cited for this claim. No engagement with the large body of work done in response to Brodie is cited or engaged.
  • Amerindians as Lamanites

22
  • The Book of Mormon portrays the Lamanites as naked, head shaven, tent dwelling, arrow wielding and idle, similar to stereotypical perceptions of the Native Americans at the time.
  • No source given.

22
  • Joseph Smith may have woven "frontier prejudices" into the Book of Mormon.
  •  Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.
  • The author needs to present actual evidence. In fact, the Book of Mormon sees the Lamanites as the equals of others, descendants of Israel, and blessed by God. This is a far cry from the frontier prejudice, where often "the only good Indian was a dead Indian."
  • No source given.

27
  • Joseph Smith "fell under the spell of the mounds and could not resist the lure of buried riches."
  • Silverberg, The Mound Builders, 1968.
  • Dan Vogel, Indian Origins and the Book of Mormon: Religious Solutions from Columbus to Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Book, 1986), no pages cited.
  • Brodie, No Man Knows My History, 1971.

27
  • Joseph Smith used a "seer stone" or "peep stone" to search for buried treasure.
  • No source given.

27
  • Joseph Smith was charged with being "disorderly" for his money digging activities in 1826.
  • No source given.

28
  • Scholars have "concluded" that Joseph Smith was inspired by View of the Hebrews.
  • Persuitte, 2000.

28
  • The New World history in View of the Hebrews "shares close parallels with the plot of the Book of Mormon."
  • Ethan Smith, View of the Hebrews, 1825.

29
  • Joseph Smith was inspired by the myths surrounding the Moundbuilders in writing the Book of Mormon.
  • Brodie, No Man Knows My History, 1971.

30
  • Joseph "likely" added the story of the Jaredites to account for the speculation about the diversity of Indian cultures and languages.
  •  Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.
  • We are told earlier that Joseph mirrored frontier prejudices. Yet, Vogel's book demonstrates that early settlers had little appreciation of the diversity of Amerindian culture. They regarded Amerindians as a monolithic group. These two claims do not mesh.
  • Jaredites added to the Book of Mormon as an "afterthought"  [needs work]

30
  • Joseph "likely" added the story of the Jaredites to account for how animals arrived in the New World after the Flood.

Chapter 3: Lamanites in the Latter Days

Page Claim Response Use of sources

37
  • Mormonism does not assign value to native cultures, their histories or mythologies.
  • No source given.

37
  • The Lamanite "family" has expanded to include Native Americans and Polynesians.
  • Gospel Principles, 1997, p. 268.

38
  • The patriarchal blessings of Native Americans and Polynesians often state that they are of the tribe of Manasseh (through Lehi).

38-39
  • Modern day prophets repeatedly declare Native Americans and Polynesians to be descendants of Lehi.
  • Gordon B. Hinckley, Church News, Mar. 13, 1999. (Colonia Juarez Chihuahua Temple dedication)
  • James E. Faust, Church News, Mar. 18, 2000. (Tuxtla Gutierrez Mexico Temple dedication)
  • Thomas S. Monson, Church News, May 27, 2000. (Villahermosa Mexico Temple dedication)
  • Gordon B. Hinckley, Church News, Aug. 7, 1999. (Guayaquil Ecuador Temple dedication)
  • Gordon B. Hinckley, Church News, May 13, 2000. (Cochabamba Bolivia Temple dedication)

40
  • The Church believed that Lamanites who accepted the Gospel would become light-skinned.
  • 3 Nephi 2꞉14-16
  • Spencer W. Kimball, "The Day of the Lamanites," The Improvement Era, December 1960, 922-923.

41
  • A general authority claimed that the writings of Ixtlilxochitl corroborated the Book of Mormon.
  • Milton R. Hunter, sometime in the 1960's.

42
  • Most Mormons are unaware that the New World has been continuously inhabited for 14,000 years.
  •  Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.: how does the author know what "most Mormons" know or don't know?
  • Do Mormons differ substantially from others? Do "most Americans" know this? Most people in the world?
  • Book of Mormon and DNA evidence
  • No source given.

42
  • The New World shows no sign of having experienced a universal flood.
  • No source given.

42
  • The Church employs apologists to defend the "myths" surrounding the Book of Mormon.
  • No source given.

43
  • Members are encouraged not to try and determine where the Book of Mormon occurred.
  • Members are encouraged not to focus on the geography to the exclusion of the Book's more important spiritual message. BYU and FARMS (now the Maxwell Institute) have published a great deal of member scholarship on geography, however.
  • Book of Mormon geography
  • No source given.

45
  • Church leaders "seem reluctant or powerless to curtail" the belief among Mesoamerican and South American saints that they are descendents of the Lamanites.
  • Author's opinion.

Chapter 4: The Lamanites of Polynesia

Page Claim Response Use of sources

47
  • The assumption that Polynesians are descendents of Lehi is the "most precarious" belief taken from the Book of Mormon.
  • No source given.

47
  • "Mormon folklore" suggests that Hagoth colonized the Pacific.
  • It is not clear what normative value "folklore" has.
  • LDS scripture suggests that Hagoth probably voyaged to the Pacific. If he left any descendants, they probably persist among Pacific Islanders.
  • All from Lehi?
  • Polynesians as Lamanites

48
  • George Q. Cannon taught the Polynesians that they were descendents of the Israelites.
  • Scott G. Kenny, "Mormons and the Smallpox Epidemic of 1853," The Hawaiian Journal of History, 31:1-26 (1997).

49
  • Brigham Young stated in 1958 that the Polynesians were descendents of Abraham.
  • Norman Douglas, "The Sons of Lehi and the Seed of Cain: Racial Myths in Mormon Scripture and Their Relevance to the Pacific Islands," Journal of Religious History, 8:90-104 (1974).

49
  • The "curse was redefined" to apply only to people of African descent.
  •  History unclear or in error: there is no evidence that the Book of Mormon curse on Lamanites ever forbade them the priesthood if they repented. The author is confusing two quite separate issues.
  • Lamanite curse
  • Blacks and the priesthood
  • No source given.

52
  • Words spoken in General Conference are considered to be "akin" to scripture.
  • No source given.

53
  • Research has confirmed that there are strong links between Polynesia and the Orient.
  • There is nothing about the Book of Mormon that would preclude this.
  • Throughout this section, the author reads the Book of Mormon in the most naive way possible. But, for at least a hundred years before, leaders and members were saying very similar things. He is simply uninformed about LDS thought on the topic.
  • No source given.

54
  • Spencer W. Kimball and Heber J. Grant believed that the islanders were descendents of Lehi.
  •  Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints: The LDS are not prophetic infalliblists, but in this case these two Church presidents may well be right.
  • If Lehi had descendants, then population genetics tells us that the Polynesians are probably among them.
  • All from Lehi?
  • Polynesians as Lamanites
  • Spencer W. Kimball, "First Presidency Message: Our Paths Have Met Again," Ensign, 5:2-7 (1975)

54
  • The Church invested "vast sums of money" to build church schools in Polynesia, Mexico and Central and South America, but "denied" these benefits to Micronesia and Melanesia.
  •  Prejudicial or loaded language: the Church gets no credit for what it has done, only what it has not done.
  • Could the presence of schools have something to do with LDS membership levels, missionary efforts, etc.?
  • No source given.

Chapter 6: Science and the First Americans

Page Claim Response Use of sources
83
  • LDS Scholars frequently associate the Olmec and Maya with the Jaredite and Nephite civilizations.
  • No source given.

Chapter 9: The Outcasts of Israel

Page Claim Response Use of sources
120
  • We should expect the common culture, history and ancestry to be revealed in the genes of the lost 10 tribes and those of the kingdom of Judah if they are actually related.
  • No source given.
128-129
  • The Lemba can be genetically tied to the line of Aaron.
  • Webber Ndoro, "Great Zimbabwe," Scientific American, Nov. 1997, 62-67.
  • Tudor Parfitt, Journey to the Vanished City: The Search for a Lost Tribe of Israel, 1997.
  • Thomas, et al., "Y Chromosomes Traveling South: The Cohen Modal Haplotype and the Origins of the Lemba 'Black Jews of Southern Africa'," American Journal of Human Genetics 66:674-86 (2000).
  • [https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/
  • Ezra/2?lang=eng&id=p35#p35
  • Ezra 2꞉35]
129
  • In Mesoamerica, there is no genetic support for European lineages.
  • No source given.

Chapter 10: The Lord's University

Page Claim Response Use of sources
135
  • Mormons believe that if there is a conflict between science and religion, that the science is incorrect.
  • McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979. No page number given.
135-136
  • Mormonism reserves the right to identify scientific truth.
  • No sources provided.
136
  • Mormonism declares that it "corners the market" on religious truth.
136
  • Joseph Smith declared that all other religions were false.
136
  • LDS think that all other religions are the "whore of the earth" and "church of the devil"
136
  • The current generation of Mormons is taught a selective view of Church history
  • Boyd K. Packer, "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater than the Intellect," BYU Studies, 21:259 (1981)
137
  • Many church members are "blissfully unaware" of Brigham Young's practice of polygamy
  • Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, 1997
137
  • Senior church leaders prefer that members not question changes in temple ordinances.
  • No sources given.
138
  • LDS ecclesiastical leaders expect "unquestioning obedience" of church members.
  • No sources given.
139
  • The Church "unofficially" discourages prayer to "Mother in Heaven"
  • AAUP Committee on Academic Freedom and Tenure. 1998. "Report of Committee A," Academe: Bulletin of the American Association of University Professors. Sept./Oct.: 71-4.
140
  • Church leaders are "loath" to make unequivocal statements of doctrine.
  • No sources given.
140
  • BYU's emphasis is on conformity rather than personal freedom.
  • Student Honor Code, Brigham Young University
141
  • CES insists that gospel learning takes precedence over secular learning.
  • The only sources referred to are "parents."
142
  • Limited geography theories advanced by FARMS are "much too controversial" for CES students
  • No sources given.
142
  • Spencer W. Kimball believed in a hemispheric Book of Mormon geography
  • A talk by President Kimball given in 1977 (not listed in "Works Cited" section)
142
  • Church members are shocked at the "limited archaeological evidence" for the Book of Mormon
  • No sources given.
143
  • LDS apologists continue to tell members how "scientists continue to get it wrong."
  • No sources given.
143
  • Most members follow their leaders without question.
  • No sources given.
143
  • LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the creation of man.
  • No sources given.
143
  • LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the tower of Babel.
  • No sources given.
143
  • LDS theology supports a literal interpretation of the Flood
  • No sources given.
143-144
  • The perception is that the Church has officially denounced evolution.
  • McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979.
  • Boyd K. Packer, "Our Moral Environment," Ensign, May 1992, p. 66. (This talk does not specifically mention the theory of evolution - Packer is stating that we are not simply "advanced animals," which the author includes in his quote.)
146
  • The Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri
146
  • Mormons believe that the continents separated only after a global flood.
146
  • Mormons are "compelled" to believe in a global flood as symbolizing the "baptism of the earth"
  • No sources given.
148
  • FARMS' goal is to deter members from reading any book that challenges their faith
  • The author states that this is an "obvious" conclusion.

Chapter 11: Plausible Geography

Page Claim Response Use of sources
153
  • B.H. Roberts' manuscripts "Book of Mormon Difficulties" and "A Book of Mormon Study" were "clearly intended for publication."
  • Brigham H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, 2nd edition, 1992.
153
  • Roberts' concluded that a 19th-century origin for the Book of Mormon was "entirely plausible"
  • Brigham H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, 2nd edition, 1992.
154
  • LDS scholars have made a "steady retraction" of claims regarding the scale of the Nephite/Lamanite presence since the 1920's.
  • No source given.
156
  • All Church presidents, General Authorities and "most church members" have believed in a hemispheric Book of Mormon geography
156
  • The Book of Mormon states that the Lamanites are "the principal ancestors of the American Indians"
  • 1981 introduction to the Book of Mormon.
156
  • A hemispheric geography most closely aligns with an "uncontrived" reading of the Book of Mormon.
  • Author's opinion.
159
  • Moroni makes no mention of traveling from Central America to New York in the Book of Mormon.
  • John L. Sorenson, An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, 1985.
160
  • There is no indication that the Book of Mormon people came in contact with others in the land.
  • Brigham H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, 2nd edition, 1992.
  • John L. Sorenson, An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, 1985.
163
  • The shrinking of Book of Mormon geographical models corresponds with the growing research showing that ancient Americans came from Asia.
  • No source given.
164
  • A limited Book of Mormon setting is at odds with "a straightforward reading" of the Book of Mormon.
  • Author's opinion.
164
  • The limited Book of Mormon setting contradicts D&C 54:8

Chapter 12: Faith Promoting Science

Page Claim Response Use of sources
168
  • LDS scholars believe that Mayan cities are prime candidates for where Lehi's people lived.
  • No source given.
168
  • The Jaredites are usually identified as the Olmec
  • No source given.
168
  • Joseph Smith declared the city of Palenque was a Nephite city, but modern scholarship indicates this city wasn't built until 600 A.D.
  • No source given by the author.
  • The statement made by the author about Palenque is incorrect. The earliest recorded ruler was K'uk Balam (Quetzal Jaguar), who governed Palenque for four years starting in the year 431 A.D.
  • Pottery shards show that Palenque was occupied as early as 300 B.C.
  • If one assumes, as Joseph apparently did, that Palenque was indeed a Nephite city, and knowing as we do now the tendency for Mesoamerican conquering rulers to destroy the monuments or records of previous ones, it would not at all be surprising to see the record go back only to the time that the Lamanites conquered the Nephites (approximately 400 - 420 A.D.).
  • A known reference to Joseph's statement about Palenque is Joseph Smith (editor), "Extract from Stephens' 'Incidents of Travel in Central America'," Times and Seasons 3 no. 22 (15 September 1842), 915. off-site GospeLink
168
  • The history of Book of Mormon archaeology is "littered with apostacy"
  • Michael D. Coe, "Mormons and Archaeology: An Outside View," Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 8:40-48 (1973).
172
  • There is no evidence of iron or steel smelting in the ancient New World
  • Michael D. Coe et al., Atlas of Ancient America (1986).
172
  • There were no wheeled vehicles in ancient America
  • No source given.
172
  • There were no draft animals to pull wheeled vehicles
  • No source given.
172
  • There are no archaeological remains of wheat or barley in Mesoamerica. The barley found in Arizona doesn't count because it was only in a limited region.
  • No source given.
173
  • Deer or tapir were never ridden by Native Americans, therefore they could not be the "horses" referred to in the Book of Mormon
  • No source given.
  • The Book of Mormon never refers to horses being ridden by the Nephites.
173
  • Dee Green said in 1973 that Book of Mormon archaeology does not exist
  • Dee F. Green, "Book of Mormon Archaeology: The Myths and the Alternatives," Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 4:71-80 (1973).
175
  • "Book of Mormon archaeology" has yielded little credible evidence
  • John E. Clark, "Book of Mormon Geography," Encyclopedia of Mormonism (1992).
  • Hugh W. Nibley, An Approach to the Book of Mormon (1964).
  • Hugh W. Nibley, Lehi in the Desert: The World of the Jaredites; There Were Jaredites, (1988).
  • Bruce W. Warren, Review of F. Richard Hauck, Deciphering the Geography of the Book of Mormon: Settlements and Routes in Ancient America, and John L. Sorenson, An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon in BYU Studies 30:127 (1990).
  • David J. Johnson, "Archaeology" Encyclopedia of Mormonism (1992).
176
  • The Smithsonian issues a statement that discredits the Book of Mormon
  • Smithsonian Institution.
177
  • LDS apologists claim that the simplification of the Smithsonian statement indicates that the original statement is now inconsistent with the current knowledge of Mesoamerican archaeology
  • Sorenson critique, 1995.
177
  • There is little evidence of a cultural link between Polynesia and the Americas. A linguistic link between a South American variety and Polynesian variety of sweet potato is not yet explained.
  • No source given.

Chapter 13: LDS Molecular Apologetics

Page Claim Response Use of sources
180
  • Most Mormons have had their ancestors posthumously "baptized into the Mormon faith."
  • No source given.
181
  • The Molecular Genealogy Foundation may reveal disconcerting "surprises" in LDS family trees that trace back to "well known polygamists" in the early church.
  • Author's opinion that the project may reveal embarrassing information about the descendants of Joseph Smith and other Church leaders through plural wives.
184
  • The Indian Student Placement Program was an attempt to turn them "white and delightsome."
  • Thomas Murphy, doctoral thesis.
184
  • "Mormon folklore" claims that Native Americans and Polynesians carry a curse based upon "misdeeds on the part of their ancestors."
  • Thomas W. Murphy and Simon G. Southerton. 2003. "Genetic Research: A 'Galileo Event' for Mormons," Anthropology News, 44:20.
185-186
  • In response to the DNA issue, the Church linked to an article written by Jeff Lindsey, "a chemical engineer with no professional training in DNA research."
186
  • LDS scientists have responded to DNA findings by claiming that it would be improbable to find evidence of an Israelite presence in the Americas.
186
  • LDS writers claim that the presence of other people in the Americas actually supports "careful readings of the Book of Mormon."
  • Daniel C. Peterson, "Editor's Introduction," FARMS Review 15/2 (2003): ix–lxii. off-site
  • Matthew Roper, "Nephi's Neighbors: Book of Mormon Peoples and Pre-Columbian Populations," FARMS Review 15/2 (2003): 91–128. off-site
186
  • LDS scholars "have come to the conclusion" that Book of Mormon populations comprised a very small part of a much larger group of people on the continent.
  • Daniel C. Peterson, "Editor's Introduction," FARMS Review 15/2 (2003): ix–lxii. off-site
187
  • LDS suggest that it would impossible to use DNA technology to identify a small local colony of individuals.
  • D. Jeffrey Meldrum and Trent D. Stephens, "Who Are the Children of Lehi?," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [38–51] link
188
  • It is not likely that "founders effect" or "genetic drift" would "completely frustrate the identification of Israelite DNA in the Americas."
  • No source given.
188
  • The Book of Mormon states that the Lehite/Mulekite groups were both descended from Jewish ancestors
  • No source given.
190
  • The Lemba prove that it is possible to detect Middle Eastern genes in a foreign environment
  • John L. Sorenson, "The Problematic Role of DNA Testing in Unraveling Human History," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 9/2 (2000). [66–74] link
190
  • Church leaders have consistently associated Lamanites with Central America.
  • Whiting, 2003b.
191
  • The Mayan Empire is considered by Mormons to the closest to the people of the Book of Mormon.
  • No source specified.
191
  • There is too much genetic variation in the X lineage to account for Book of Mormon people to have arrived as recently as 2600 years ago.
  • Brown, et al., 1998.
192
  • The X lineage occurs in North America and is not found in Central America.
  • Hauswirth et al., 1994
  • Ribeiro-dos-Santo et al., 1996
192
  • LDS writers have overlooked the fact that Mitochondrial DNA research shows that 99.6% of Native Americans migrated to the American continent thousands of years before the Israelites came into existence, and none of these are candidates for Israelite origin.
  • No source given.
192
  • The remaining 0.4% is likely the result of genetic mixture with people who came to the New World after Columbus
  • Author's conclusion.
193
  • LDS scholars claim that the impact of Book of Mormon immigrants to the New World made an impact "so small that they barely mattered."
  • No source given.
193
  • A great number of Native Americans are now assumed to have been absorbed into New World Israelite civilizations.
  • No source given.
193
  • "Other people" in the Book of Mormon have "remained invisible" to most readers.
  • No source given.
193-194
  • "Gentiles who inhabited the Americas before, during and after the Book of Mormon period are potential Lamanites."
  • 2 Nephi 1꞉5
  • John L. Sorenson and Matthew Roper, "Before DNA," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [6–23] link
  • D. Jeffrey Meldrum and Trent D. Stephens, "Who Are the Children of Lehi?," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12/1 (2003). [38–51] link
195
  • The children of Lehi were to be "kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves."
195
  • There are no explicit references to non-Israelites living near the Lehites or Jaredites.
  • Brent L. Metcalf, "Reinventing Lamanite Identity," Sunstone, 131:20-25 (2004).
195
  • Five hundred years after their arrival, groups were still identified as having descended from Laman, Lemuel, Ishmael, etc.
196
  • Familial terms used in the Book of Mormon imply a genetic link.
197
  • Joseph Smith and other leaders taught that the Book of Mormon described the origins of the Indians in the western hemisphere.
  • Matthew Roper, "Nephi's Neighbors: Book of Mormon Peoples and Pre-Columbian Populations," FARMS Review 15/2 (2003): 91–128. off-site
  • Matthew Roper, "Swimming the Gene Pool: Israelite Kinship Relations, Genes, and Genealogy," FARMS Review 15/2 (2003): 129–164. off-site
197
  • Mormons "tend to be hazy" regarding what past Church leaders have said regarding geography.
  • No source given.

Chapter 14: Moving the Spirit

Page Claim Response Use of sources
199
  • No Semitic languages have been found in the New World.
  • No source given.
199
  • No wheeled chariots or horses to pull them have been found in the New World
  • No source given.
199
  • No swords or steel have been found in the New World
  • No source given.
200
  • The Israelites of the Book of Mormon made no noticeable contribution to the native gene pool in the New World or in Polynesia
  • No source given.
200
  • Many LDS are disquieted by "how far the Book of Mormon is from reality"
  • No source given.
200
  • Many LDS are disquieted by "how far the apologists have strayed from traditional Mormon beliefs"
  • No source given.
201
  • A supposition that the Church has a history of ancient America may some day be de-emphasized
  • Brent L. Metcalf, New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology (1993).
  • Mark D. Thomas, Digging in Cumorah: Reclaiming Book of Mormon Narratives (1999).
202
  • A limited Book of Mormon setting has "not been granted the church's official blessing in any way."
  • No source given.
202
  • The general membership would not believe a limited Book of Mormon geography
  • Author's opinion.
202
  • Millions of Mormons believe that Lehi stands at the head of their own family pedigrees.
  • No source given.
202
  • The work of LDS apologists is not discussed in any public forum sponsored by the Church.
  • No source given.
202-203
  • The genetic support for an Israelite presence in the New World is "slim to none"
  • Author's conclusion based upon preceding chapters.
203
  • Apologists are unable to find an Israelite genetic signature in the islands of the Pacific
  • Author's conclusion based upon preceding chapters.
203
  • Apologists are unable to find an Israelite genetic signature in Central America
  • Author's conclusion based upon preceding chapters.
203
  • Apologists have chosen to reinterpret the statements of modern prophets regarding Book of Mormon geography
  • No source given.
203
  • Most Mormons believe that Adam and Eve were placed on the Earth 6000 years ago.
  • No source given.
203
  • Most Mormons believe that the Earth was re-colonized after the Flood
  • No source given.
203
  • LDS apologists need to explain how people have lived in Australia and the New World separately for tens of thousands of years without evidence of a global flood having disturbed them
  • Author's opinion.
203
  • BYU professors have been "compelled to shrink the scale of the assumed Israelite incursion into the Americas"
  • No source given.
204
  • In 1938 Joseph Fielding Smith opposed a limited geography for the Book of Mormon.
  • Unspecified statement by Joseph Fielding Smith in 1938.
204
  • The youth of the Church have been assured that the Smithsonian uses the Book of Mormon to guide their research
  • No source given.
204
  • The Book of Mormon depicts the settlement of an area of the world that was previously unpopulated.
  • No source given.
205
  • General Authorities tell members in certain areas of the world that they are the offspring of Lehi.
  • Author's conclusion based on preceding chapters.
205
  • The Church disregards people's own cultural history and local mythologies.
  • No source given.
205
  • The Church does not officially endorse apologetic scholarship
  • No source given.
205
  • The Church officially tells members not to attempt to link the Book of Mormon to any geographical location
  • No source given.
206
  • There is no evidence of a Hebrew influence in Mesoamerica.
  • Author's conclusion.
206
  • LDS apologists believe that the "miniscule Lehite colony" had no lasting impact on the Americas.
  • No source given.
206
  • LDS apologists are cut off from the larger church community because of differences in their beliefs.
  • No source given.
206-207
  • The General Authorities have not found a way to detach or reinterpret the Book of Mormon from real history
  • Author's opinion.
207
  • The Church takes a "dim view" of scientists and intellectuals.
  • No source given.

Endnotes

  1. [note]  Wilford Woodruff, Conference Report (October 1897), 18-19.

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