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Claims made in "Appendix A: Abraham's Book?"
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Claims made in "Appendix B: Failed Joseph Smith Prophecies"

Page Claim Response Author's sources

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  • Claim that Moroni told Joseph that Isaiah 11:6-11 was "about to be fulfilled."

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  • Joseph was to go to Canada and sell the Book of Mormon copyright.
  • Pearl of Great Price Joseph Smith—History 1:40.

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  • The book claims that the elect were to be gathered "against the day when tribulation and desolation are sent forth upon the wicked."
  • B.H. Roberts, Comprehensive History of the Church, vol. 1, 165.
  • David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, 30-31.

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  • That "the hour is nigh and the day soon at hand" that Jesus Christ would return and the wicked would be destroyed.

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  • The Saints were to gather to Missouri and "gather riches and purchase an inheritance...where the wicked would not come." The book claims that the prophecy states that the wicked would "refuse to battle because of fearing the Mormons."
  • D&C 45: 64-74

64 Wherefore I, the Lord, have said, gather ye out from the eastern lands, assemble ye yourselves together ye elders of my church; go ye forth into the western countries, call upon the inhabitants to repent, and inasmuch as they do repent, build up churches unto me.
65 And with one heart and with one mind, gather up your riches that ye may purchase an inheritance which shall hereafter be appointed unto you.
66 And it shall be called the New Jerusalem, a land of peace, a city of refuge, a place of safety for the saints of the Most High God;
67 And the glory of the Lord shall be there, and the terror of the Lord also shall be there, insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it, and it shall be called Zion.
68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor must needs flee unto Zion for safety.
69 And there shall be gathered unto it out of every nation under heaven; and it shall be the only people that shall not be at war one with another.
70 And it shall be said among the wicked: Let us not go up to battle against Zion, for the inhabitants of Zion are terrible; wherefore we cannot stand.
71 And it shall come to pass that the righteous shall be gathered out from among all nations, and shall come to Zion, singing with songs of everlasting joy.
72 And now I say unto you, keep these things from going abroad unto the world until it is expedient in me, that ye may accomplish this work in the eyes of the people, and in the eyes of your enemies, that they may not know your works until ye have accomplished the thing which I have commanded you;
73 That when they shall know it, that they may consider these things.
74 For when the Lord shall appear he shall be terrible unto them, that fear may seize upon them, and they shall stand afar off and tremble.

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  • A temple would be built in Missouri.

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  • The temple in Missouri would be built "in this generation."

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  • New York, Albany and Boston would be destroyed if they rejected the Gospel.
  • D&C 84: 114-115

114 Nevertheless, let the bishop go unto the city of New York, also to the city of Albany, and also to the city of Boston, and warn the people of those cities with the sound of the gospel, with a loud voice, of the desolation and utter abolishment which await them if they do reject these things.
115 For if they do reject these things the hour of their judgment is nigh, and their house shall be left unto them desolate.

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  • The Civil War prophecy
  • No citation provided

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  • The Lost Ten tribes would be gathered within Joseph Smith's generation.
  • History of the Church, vol. 1, 315-316.

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  • The "City of Zion" would never "be moved" from its place in Missouri.
  • D&C 97: 18-20

18 And, now, behold, if Zion do these things she shall prosper, and spread herself and become very glorious, very great, and very terrible.
19 And the nations of the earth shall honor her, and shall say: Surely Zion is the city of our God, and surely Zion cannot fall, neither be moved out of her place, for God is there, and the hand of the Lord is there;
20 And he hath sworn by the power of his might to be her salvation and her high tower.

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  • The Latter-day Saints should retain their Missouri lands and seek legal redress. If they did not obtain it, then God would avenge them and destroy their adversaries.
  • History of the Church, vol. 1, 455.

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  • Joseph is claimed to have prophesied that "within three years they should march to Jackson County and there should not be a dog to open his mouth against them."
  • Reed Peck, Reed Peck Manuscript, 3.

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  • The United Order claimed through revelation to be "everlasting," "immutable and unchangeable," "until I [Jesus] come."
  • D&C 104: 1-6

1 Verily I say unto you, my friends, I give unto you counsel, and a commandment, concerning all the properties which belong to the order which I commanded to be organized and established, to be a united order, and an everlasting order for the benefit of my church, and for the salvation of men until I come—
2 With promise immutable and unchangeable, that inasmuch as those whom I commanded were faithful they should be blessed with a multiplicity of blessings;
3 But inasmuch as they were not faithful they were nigh unto cursing.
4 Therefore, inasmuch as some of my servants have not kept the commandment, but have broken the covenant through covetousness, and with feigned words, I have cursed them with a very sore and grievous curse.
5 For I, the Lord, have decreed in my heart, that inasmuch as any man belonging to the order shall be found a transgressor, or, in other words, shall break the covenant with which ye are bound, he shall be cursed in his life, and shall be trodden down by whom I will;
6 For I, the Lord, am not to be mocked in these things—

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  • "I will fight your battles...the destroyer I have sent forth to destroy and lay waste mine enemies; and not many years hence they shall not be left to pollute mine heritage, and to blaspheme my name upon the lands which I have consecrated for the gathering together of my saints."
  • D&C 105: 13-15

13 Therefore it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season, for the redemption of Zion.
14 For behold, I do not require at their hands to fight the battles of Zion; for, as I said in a former commandment, even so will I fulfil—I will fight your battles.
15 Behold, the destroyer I have sent forth to destroy and lay waste mine enemies; and not many years hence they shall not be left to pollute mine heritage, and to blaspheme my name upon the lands which I have consecrated for the gathering together of my saints.

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  • September 11, 1836 was "the appointed time for the redemption of Zion."
  • History of the Church, vol. 2, 145.

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  • "[T]he coming of the Lord, which is nigh—even fifty-six years should wind up the scene."
  • History of the Church, vol. 2, 182.

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  • Regarding Orson Hyde's trip to Jerusalem, "by thy hands shall the Most High do a great work, which shall prepare the way and greatly facilitate the gathering of that people." The author comments that Hyde "did nothing to facilitate the gathering of the Jews, which did not occur until over 100 years later."
  • Nephi Lowell Morris, Prophecies of Joseph Smith and their Fulfillment, 261.

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  • Joseph was sent to Salem, Massachusetts to receive "its wealth pertaining to gold and silver."

1 I, the Lord your God, am not displeased with your coming this journey, notwithstanding your follies.

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  • Thomas B. Marsh was told that he would be "exalted," and that he would preach "unto the ends of the earth."
  • Note verse 9 highlighted in bold, which was not referenced by the author, even though verses before and after it were. The book omits the fact that the condition upon which this would be fulfilled was that Marsh need to "be humble":
  • D&C 112:3-11

3 Nevertheless, inasmuch as thou hast abased thyself thou shalt be exalted; therefore, all thy sins are forgiven thee.
4 Let thy heart be of good cheer before my face; and thou shalt bear record of my name, not only unto the Gentiles, but also unto the Jews; and thou shalt send forth my word unto the ends of the earth.
5 Contend thou, therefore, morning by morning; and day after day let thy warning voice go forth; and when the night cometh let not the inhabitants of the earth slumber, because of thy speech.
6 Let thy habitation be known in Zion, and remove not thy house; for I, the Lord, have a great work for thee to do, in publishing my name among the children of men.
7 Therefore, gird up thy loins for the work. Let thy feet be shod also, for thou art chosen, and thy path lieth among the mountains, and among many nations.
8 And by thy word many high ones shall be brought low, and by thy word many low ones shall be exalted.
9 Thy voice shall be a rebuke unto the transgressor; and at thy rebuke let the tongue of the slanderer cease its perverseness.
10 Be thou humble; and the Lord thy God shall lead thee by the hand, and give thee answer to thy prayers.
11 I know thy heart, and have heard thy prayers concerning thy brethren. Be not partial towards them in love above many others, but let thy love be for them as for thyself; and let thy love abound unto all men, and unto all who love my name.

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  • David W. Patten was told that he needed to prepare to go on a mission "next spring...to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world."

D&C 114: 1

1 Verily thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.

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  • Joseph is claimed to have prophesied that his enemies would be taken "in their own craftiness"

D&C 121: 11-15

11 And they who do charge thee with transgression, their hope shall be blasted, and their prospects shall melt away as the hoar frost melteth before the burning rays of the rising sun;
12 And also that God hath set his hand and seal to change the times and seasons, and to blind their minds, that they may not understand his marvelous workings; that he may prove them also and take them in their own craftiness;
13 Also because their hearts are corrupted, and the things which they are willing to bring upon others, and love to have others suffer, may come upon themselves to the very uttermost;
14 That they may be disappointed also, and their hopes may be cut off;
15 And not many years hence, that they and their posterity shall be swept from under heaven, saith God, that not one of them is left to stand by the wall.

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  • Joseph Smith, Manuscript Diary, under January 20, 1843, in Scott H. Faulring, ed., An American Prophet's Record: The Diaries and Journals of Joseph Smith, 294.

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  • History of the Church, vol. 5, 336.

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  • History of the Church, vol. 5, 336.

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  • History of the Church, vol. 5, 336.

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  • History of the Church, vol. 5, 394.

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  • Joseph Smith, MS, vol. 22, 455; cf. Faulring, under December 16, 1843, 432.

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  • Joseph Smith, Manuscript Diary, February 6, 1844, omitted from the History of the Church. Cited in D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power (Signature Books, 1994), 642.; cf. Faulring, 445.

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