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====355 epigraph, 597n1====
||Joseph Smith said: "Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species..."
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*''History of the Church'', vol. 5, 217-218.
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||"Mormonism and racism have for many years been synonymous terms to persons well acquainted with Latter-day Saint beliefs."
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*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]]
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*Thelma Geer, ''Mormonism, Mama & Me'', 24-25.
*{{CriticalWork:Ostling:Mormon America|pages=103-106}}
*Thomas Matthews, "Mormon Racism In Perspective."
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||The granting of the priesthood to blacks in 1978 "could hardly eradicate the previous 148 years of Mormon racist/white supremacist teachings, all of which directly related to the LDS doctrine of pre-existence."
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*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]]
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*Author's statement.
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====356, n6====
||"According to traditional LDS beliefs, everyone's place in the world (e.g. country of birth, social-economic status, etc.) is determined by their conduct int he pre-mortal world."
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*''Pearl of Great Price'', Book of Abraham 3:22.
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====357, 597n7, 9-11====
||The author makes the following statement:
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These admirable spirits served God well, followed his commands, and did the most with their talents before coming to earth. Consequently, they are rewarded by being born into favoraable circumstances. To be specific, they are born as Mormons in America, or at the very least, somewhere in a predominantly Caucasian country. More righteous spirits are born with more advantages. Less commendable spirits, however, are born with fewer advantages, into lives of greater or lesser quality depending on how poorly they performed in the pre-earth world. Moreover, they are born as non-whites. This is their punishment for not having been all they could have been during the pre-existence.
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A quote from Apostle Mark E. Petersen is provided to support this assertion.
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*[[Racist statements by Church leaders]]
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*Mark E. Petersen, "Race Problems As They Affect The Church," Address At the Convention of Teachers of Religion On the College Level, delivered at Brigham Young University, Provo, Utha, August 27, 1954.
*John J. Stewart, ''The Glory of Mormonism'', inside flap book cover and 144.
*Joseph Fielding Smith, ''Doctrines of Salvation'', vol. 1, 61.
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====357, 597n8====
||"[C]lassic LDS teachings" have taught that black is not an "honourable body."
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*[[Racist statements by Church leaders]]
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*Orson Hyde, ''Speech of Orson Hyde, Delivered Before the High Priests' Quorum, in Nauvoo, April 27th, 1845, Upon the Course and Conduct of Mr. Sidney Rigdon'', 309.
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||"Those who bravely fought on Christ's side were born as privileged Mormon whites, while those who were indecisive and/or less valiant in the celestial struggle were born black."
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*B.H. Roberts, "To the Youth of Israel," ''The Contributor'', vol. 6, 296-297.
*Bruce McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', p. 527.
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====358, 59714-15====
||Brigham Young and Bruce R. McConkie claimed that blacks were of the lineage of Cain.
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*[[Blacks and the priesthood/The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"]]
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*McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'' p. 109.
*{{JDwiki|author=Brigham Young|url=http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Journal_of_Discourses/Volume_7/Intelligence,_Etc.|vol=7|pages=290}}
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=Further reading=
=Further reading=
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Claims made in "Chapter 15: Making the Transition"
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 Claims made in "Chapter 17: Is Mormonism Christian?"

Claims made in "Chapter 16: Mormon Racism: Black Is Not Beautiful"

Page Claim Response Author's sources

355 epigraph, 597n1

 Joseph Smith said: "Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species..."
  • History of the Church, vol. 5, 217-218.

356, 597n5

 "Mormonism and racism have for many years been synonymous terms to persons well acquainted with Latter-day Saint beliefs."

356

 The granting of the priesthood to blacks in 1978 "could hardly eradicate the previous 148 years of Mormon racist/white supremacist teachings, all of which directly related to the LDS doctrine of pre-existence."
  • Author's statement.

356, n6

 "According to traditional LDS beliefs, everyone's place in the world (e.g. country of birth, social-economic status, etc.) is determined by their conduct int he pre-mortal world."
  • Pearl of Great Price, Book of Abraham 3:22.

357, 597n7, 9-11

 The author makes the following statement:

These admirable spirits served God well, followed his commands, and did the most with their talents before coming to earth. Consequently, they are rewarded by being born into favoraable circumstances. To be specific, they are born as Mormons in America, or at the very least, somewhere in a predominantly Caucasian country. More righteous spirits are born with more advantages. Less commendable spirits, however, are born with fewer advantages, into lives of greater or lesser quality depending on how poorly they performed in the pre-earth world. Moreover, they are born as non-whites. This is their punishment for not having been all they could have been during the pre-existence.

A quote from Apostle Mark E. Petersen is provided to support this assertion.

  • Mark E. Petersen, "Race Problems As They Affect The Church," Address At the Convention of Teachers of Religion On the College Level, delivered at Brigham Young University, Provo, Utha, August 27, 1954.
  • John J. Stewart, The Glory of Mormonism, inside flap book cover and 144.
  • Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, 61.

357, 597n8

 "[C]lassic LDS teachings" have taught that black is not an "honourable body."
  • Orson Hyde, Speech of Orson Hyde, Delivered Before the High Priests' Quorum, in Nauvoo, April 27th, 1845, Upon the Course and Conduct of Mr. Sidney Rigdon, 309.

358, 597n13

 "Those who bravely fought on Christ's side were born as privileged Mormon whites, while those who were indecisive and/or less valiant in the celestial struggle were born black."
  • B.H. Roberts, "To the Youth of Israel," The Contributor, vol. 6, 296-297.
  • Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 527.

358, 59714-15

 Brigham Young and Bruce R. McConkie claimed that blacks were of the lineage of Cain.

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