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War and extermination is inevitable! Citizens ARISE, ONE and ALL!!!—Can you stand by, and suffer such INFERNAL DEVILS! to ROB men of their property and RIGHTS, without avenging them. We have no time for comment, every man will make his own. LET IT BE MADE WITH POWDER AND BALL!!! | War and extermination is inevitable! Citizens ARISE, ONE and ALL!!!—Can you stand by, and suffer such INFERNAL DEVILS! to ROB men of their property and RIGHTS, without avenging them. We have no time for comment, every man will make his own. LET IT BE MADE WITH POWDER AND BALL!!! | ||
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On July 10, Sharp wrote: | |||
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Joe and Hiram [sic] Smith, at the time their lives were taken, were in the custody of the officers of the law; and it is asked by those who condemn the act, why the law was not first allowed to take its course before violence was resorted to? We answer that the course of law in the case of these wretches would have been a mere mockery; and such was the conviction of every sensible man. | |||
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*[[../../Notable omissions|Notable omissions]] | *[[../../Notable omissions|Notable omissions]] | ||
Revision as of 04:45, 6 January 2009
| Claims made in "Chapter 9: March to Martyrdom" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Chapter 11: Bloody Brigham" |
Claims made in "Chapter 10: A New Beginning"
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"Unrepentant abandonment to the 'lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life' (1 John 2:16) had caused Joseph's ruin; nothing more, nothing less." |
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207, 548n12 (PB) |
"[Willard] Richards may have gone so far as to have Samuel [Smith] murdered to prevent any succession. Samuel's wife believed this to be the case, naming as her husband's murderer, the Chief of Police—Hosea Stout..." |
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207, 548n13 (PB) |
"But even more imperative to top LDS leaders was finding a person, or persons, willing to continue Smith's propagation of polygamy, which by 1844 was being enjoyed by select members of the Twelve Apostles..." |
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208, 548n17 (PB) |
William Marks "was almost installed as church president by several high-ranking leaders, who happened to be in Nauvoo." |
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211, 549n27 (PB) |
"Mormon thieves, who regularly stole from non-Mormons. This had been a long-standing complain about Saints in the area....eight out of fourteen issues of the Warsaw Signal published between September 18, 1844, and January 1, 1845, included articles titled "Mormon Thieves."...for several weeks beginning on Christmas Day, 1844, the publication ran stories about "Mormon Stealing." |
On July 10, Sharp wrote:
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211, 549n28 (PB) |
"...stealing from the Gentiles apparently had been approved by Smith, who told Porter Rockwell that 'it was right to steal.'" |
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211, 549n29 (PB) |
Orson Hyde said that it was OK to "steal & be influenced by the spirit of the Lord to do it" as long as it was against non-Mormons. |
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211, 549n31-34 |
The Nauvoo police committed "many murders, vicious beatings, and intimidating assults" against "perceived enemies of the church." |
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212, 549n35-37 |
"Although the exact number of murders committed by Mormons between 1844 and 1846 remains unknown, it is certain that a majority of them were handled by Danites Porter Rockwell, Hosea Stout, and Allen Stout. |
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213, 549n38 |
Heber C. Kimball and Orson Hyde "actually ordered Nauvoo's police force to kill apostate Lambert Symes, who subsequently disappeared without a trace." |
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213, 550n44-45 |
"Other homicides were taken care of by members of the Council of Fifty." |
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220, 553n77 (HB) |
Brigham "proudly admitted" "'I have been your dictator for twenty-seven years--over a quarter of a century I have dictated this people.'" |
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222, 554n88 (HB) |
Brigham asserted that God's kingdom had already come. "[T]hat Kingdom is actually organized, and the inhabitants of earth do not [even] know it," |
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222, 554n89 (HB) |
Brigham said: "[W]e will roll on the Kingdom of our God, gather out the seed of Abraham, build the cities and temples of Zion, and establish the Kingdom of God to bear rule over all the earth." |
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