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|41, 500 n.2-4||Joseph used at least two seer stones.||[[Joseph Smith and seer stones]]|| | |41, 500 n.2-4||Joseph used at least two seer stones. | ||
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*D. Michael Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 245. | *D. Michael Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 245. | ||
*E.W. Vanderhoof, ''Historical Sketches of Western New York'', quoted in Quinn, 43. | *E.W. Vanderhoof, ''Historical Sketches of Western New York'', quoted in Quinn, 43. | ||
*Quinn, 43. | *Quinn, 43. | ||
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|42, 500 n.7||Issac Hale, Emma's father, disapproved of Joseph because of his money digging activities.||[[The Hurlbut affidavits#Isaac Hale|The Hurlbut affidavits—Isaac Hale]]|| | |42, 500 n.7||Issac Hale, Emma's father, disapproved of Joseph because of his money digging activities. | ||
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*[[The Hurlbut affidavits#Isaac Hale|The Hurlbut affidavits—Isaac Hale]] | |||
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*Isaac Hale, cited in Howe ''Mormonism Unvailed'' 262-263. | *Isaac Hale, cited in Howe ''Mormonism Unvailed'' 262-263. | ||
*Martin Harris, ''Tiffany's Monthly'', August 1859, vol. 5, 164. | *Martin Harris, ''Tiffany's Monthly'', August 1859, vol. 5, 164. | ||
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|44||Joseph was pronounced "guilty" of performing illegal activities with the stone.||[[Joseph Smith's 1826 glasslooking trial]]|| | |44||Joseph was pronounced "guilty" of performing illegal activities with the stone. | ||
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*A.W. Benton, ''Evangelical Magazine and Gospel Advocate'', April 9, 1831, New Series 2, 120. | *A.W. Benton, ''Evangelical Magazine and Gospel Advocate'', April 9, 1831, New Series 2, 120. | ||
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|46, 503 n.18||Hugh Nibley said, "If this court recored is authentic, it is the most damning evidence in existence against Joseph Smith.||[[Joseph Smith's 1826 glasslooking trial]]|| | |46, 503 n.18||Hugh Nibley said, "If this court recored is authentic, it is the most damning evidence in existence against Joseph Smith. | ||
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*Hugh Nibley, ''The Myth Makers'', 142. | *Hugh Nibley, ''The Myth Makers'', 142. | ||
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|46, 503 n.20||Francis Kirkham claimed that "If any evidence had been in existence that Joseph Smith had used a seer stone for fraud and deception, and expcially had he made this confession in a court of law as early as 1826, or four years before the ''Book of Mormon'' was printed, and this confession was in a court record, it would have been impossible for hism to have organized the resorted Church.||[[Joseph Smith's 1826 glasslooking trial]]|| | |46, 503 n.20||Francis Kirkham claimed that "If any evidence had been in existence that Joseph Smith had used a seer stone for fraud and deception, and expcially had he made this confession in a court of law as early as 1826, or four years before the ''Book of Mormon'' was printed, and this confession was in a court record, it would have been impossible for hism to have organized the resorted Church. | ||
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*Francis Kirkham, '' A New Witness for Christ in the America'', 386. | *Francis Kirkham, '' A New Witness for Christ in the America'', 386. | ||
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|47, 503 n.22||Joseph realized that "money-digging alone was bringing in ony about $14 a month, which was not nearly enough to support a family."||[[Joseph Smith and money digging]]|| | |47, 503 n.22||Joseph realized that "money-digging alone was bringing in ony about $14 a month, which was not nearly enough to support a family." | ||
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*[[Joseph Smith and money digging]] | |||
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*''History of the Church'' 3:29 | *''History of the Church'' 3:29 | ||
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|47, 503 n.23||Joseph initially "attached no religious significance" to the "golden book" that he told people he would be retrieving. He instead "touted it as a book that would 'tell him how to get money that was buried in the ground.'"|| || | |47, 503 n.23||Joseph initially "attached no religious significance" to the "golden book" that he told people he would be retrieving. He instead "touted it as a book that would 'tell him how to get money that was buried in the ground.'" | ||
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*Parley Chase, letter to James T. Cobb, April 3, 1879 quoted in Wyl, ''Joseph Smith, the Prophet, His Family, and His Friends'', 276. | *Parley Chase, letter to James T. Cobb, April 3, 1879 quoted in Wyl, ''Joseph Smith, the Prophet, His Family, and His Friends'', 276. | ||
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|48, 503 n.25||Joseph decided to convert his book into a saga about America's ancient inhabitants as a money making scheme.|| || | |48, 503 n.25||Joseph decided to convert his book into a saga about America's ancient inhabitants as a money making scheme. | ||
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*{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows|pages=83}} | *{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows|pages=83}} | ||
*The author simply repeats Brodie's supposition. There is no actual evidence that this was the case. | *The author simply repeats Brodie's supposition. There is no actual evidence that this was the case. | ||
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|503 n.25||Joseph tried to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon in Canada.||[[Did Joseph Smith attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright?]]|| | |503 n.25||Joseph tried to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon in Canada. | ||
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*Hiram Page, letter to William McLellin, February 2, 1848. | *Hiram Page, letter to William McLellin, February 2, 1848. | ||
*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 30-31. | *David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 30-31. | ||
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|48, 503-4 n.29-32||One of Joseph's early descriptions of Moroni was of a bloody ghost with his throat cut.|| || | |48, 503-4 n.29-32||One of Joseph's early descriptions of Moroni was of a bloody ghost with his throat cut. | ||
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*Hiel Lewis, ''Amboy Journal'', April 30, 1879, quote in Wesley P. Walters, "The Mormon Prophet Attempts to Join the Methodists," reprinted in Wyl, ''Mormon Portraits'', 79-80. | *Hiel Lewis, ''Amboy Journal'', April 30, 1879, quote in Wesley P. Walters, "The Mormon Prophet Attempts to Join the Methodists," reprinted in Wyl, ''Mormon Portraits'', 79-80. | ||
*Fayette Lapham, reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 1, 459. | *Fayette Lapham, reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 1, 459. | ||
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|50-51, n.34-36||"The Smiths eventually changed Joseph's 'dream' of a ghost to a 'vision' of a spirit (but not yet an angel)...A 'toad-like' creature 'assumed the appearance of a man' and struck Joseph on the side of his head, telling him that it was not yet time to retrieve the plates."||[[The Hurlbut affidavits#Willard Chase|The Hurlbut affidavits—Willard Chase]] || | |50-51, n.34-36||"The Smiths eventually changed Joseph's 'dream' of a ghost to a 'vision' of a spirit (but not yet an angel)...A 'toad-like' creature 'assumed the appearance of a man' and struck Joseph on the side of his head, telling him that it was not yet time to retrieve the plates." | ||
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*[[The Hurlbut affidavits#Willard Chase|The Hurlbut affidavits—Willard Chase]] | |||
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*Willard Chase, cited in Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 242. | *Willard Chase, cited in Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 242. | ||
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|51||"A subsequent version of Smith's ever-changing tale..."|| || | |51||"A subsequent version of Smith's ever-changing tale..." | ||
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*The author wishes to portray all of these stories as successive evolutions. | |||
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*No source given. | *No source given. | ||
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|51||"Until well into the late 1800s it was widely understood that Smith found the golden plates not by a dream, or a ghost, or a vision—but by looking into his peep-stone and seeing where they had been deposited.||[[One Nation Under Gods#Absurd claims|Absurd claims]] || | |51||"Until well into the late 1800s it was widely understood that Smith found the golden plates not by a dream, or a ghost, or a vision—but by looking into his peep-stone and seeing where they had been deposited. | ||
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*[[One Nation Under Gods#Absurd claims|Absurd claims]] | |||
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*Orasmus Turner, ''History of the Pioneer Settlement of Phelps and Gorham's Purchase, and Morris Reserve. (1852) | *Orasmus Turner, ''History of the Pioneer Settlement of Phelps and Gorham's Purchase, and Morris Reserve. (1852) | ||
*Hosea Stout, ''On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout'', vol. 2, 593. | *Hosea Stout, ''On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout'', vol. 2, 593. | ||
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*Widely understood?? The author cites several second-hand sources...from the 1850s! | *Widely understood?? The author cites several second-hand sources...from the 1850s! | ||
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|51||"all of the ''religious'' aspects of Smith's adventures came much later."|| || | |51||"all of the ''religious'' aspects of Smith's adventures came much later." | ||
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*Orasmus Turner, 214. | *Orasmus Turner, 214. | ||
*Hiel Lewis. | *Hiel Lewis. | ||
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|52||Joseph Smith claimed that the moon was inhabited.||[[Joseph Smith and moonmen]]|| | |52||Joseph Smith claimed that the moon was inhabited. | ||
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*Oliver B. Huntington, "The Inhabitants of the Moon," ''The Young Woman's Journal'', 1892, vol. 3, 263-264. | *Oliver B. Huntington, "The Inhabitants of the Moon," ''The Young Woman's Journal'', 1892, vol. 3, 263-264. | ||
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|52||Joseph taught the doctrine of "Caucasians advancing to godhood"|| || | |52||Joseph taught the doctrine of "Caucasians advancing to godhood" | ||
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*No source provided. | *No source provided. | ||
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|52||Joseph taught the notion that "Blacks, Indians, and other people of color are cursed spirits."||[[Lamanite curse]]|| | |52||Joseph taught the notion that "Blacks, Indians, and other people of color are cursed spirits." | ||
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*No source provided. | *No source provided. | ||
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|53, 505-506n47 (HB)<br>53, 503-504n47 (PB)||"After all, no one had actually seen the plates, nor would anyone''ever'' see them"||[[One Nation Under Gods#Absurd clams|Absurd claims]] | |53, 505-506n47 (HB)<br>53, 503-504n47 (PB)||"After all, no one had actually seen the plates, nor would anyone''ever'' see them" | ||
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*[[../../Use of sources/Seeing the Plates|Use of sources: Seeing the Plates]] | |||
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*Testimony of the Three Witnesses | *Testimony of the Three Witnesses | ||
*Testimony of the Eight Witnesses | *Testimony of the Eight Witnesses | ||
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|505 n.47||The witnesses only saw the plates through "visionary experiences."|| || | |505 n.47||The witnesses only saw the plates through "visionary experiences." | ||
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|505 n.47||The eight witnesses only saw the plates as long as they were covered with a cloth of some kind.|| || | |505 n.47||The eight witnesses only saw the plates as long as they were covered with a cloth of some kind. | ||
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*No source provided. | *No source provided. | ||
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|505 n.47||Martin Harris said that none of the eight witnesses ever saw the plates, and that he only handled them in a box or under a cloth.|| || | |505 n.47||Martin Harris said that none of the eight witnesses ever saw the plates, and that he only handled them in a box or under a cloth. | ||
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*Stephen Burnett, letter to Br Johnson, April 15, 1838, Joseph Smith Papers, Letterbook, April 20, 1837-February 9, 1843, 64-66 cited in {{CriticalWork:Tanner:Changing World|pages=108}}. | *Stephen Burnett, letter to Br Johnson, April 15, 1838, Joseph Smith Papers, Letterbook, April 20, 1837-February 9, 1843, 64-66 cited in {{CriticalWork:Tanner:Changing World|pages=108}}. | ||
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|505 n.47||Joseph Smith claimed that the Three Witnesses saw the plates in a vision.|| || | |505 n.47||Joseph Smith claimed that the Three Witnesses saw the plates in a vision. | ||
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*Joseph Smith, "History of Joseph Smith—Continued", ''Times and Seasons'', September 1, 1842, vol. 3, no. 21, 897-898. | *Joseph Smith, "History of Joseph Smith—Continued", ''Times and Seasons'', September 1, 1842, vol. 3, no. 21, 897-898. | ||
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|505 n.47||David Whitmer "agreed that neither he, nor the other Three Witnesses, ever physically saw or handled the plates.|| || | |505 n.47||David Whitmer "agreed that neither he, nor the other Three Witnesses, ever physically saw or handled the plates. | ||
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*David Whitmer, interview recorded by P. Wilhelm Poulson, c. early 1878, reprinted in ''Deseret Evening News'', August 16, 1878. | *David Whitmer, interview recorded by P. Wilhelm Poulson, c. early 1878, reprinted in ''Deseret Evening News'', August 16, 1878. | ||
*{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows|pages=77-80}} | *{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows|pages=77-80}} | ||
*{{CriticalWork:Tanner:Mormonism Shadow|pages=50-55}} | *{{CriticalWork:Tanner:Mormonism Shadow|pages=50-55}} | ||
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|508 n.59||"Mormons often try to discredit Anthon by pointing out an alleged discrepancy between his letters, but there exists no such discrepancy.|| || | |508 n.59||"Mormons often try to discredit Anthon by pointing out an alleged discrepancy between his letters, but there exists no such discrepancy. | ||
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*Persuitte, 303-304, endnote#19. | *Persuitte, 303-304, endnote#19. | ||
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|55, 508n60 (HB)<br>55, 506n60 (PB)||Scholars have declared that there is no language called "Reformed Egyptian."||[[Book of Mormon anachronisms/Reformed Egyptian|Reformed Egyptian]]<br>[[../../Use of sources/Reformed Egyptian|Use of sources: Reformed Egyptian]]|| | |55, 508n60 (HB)<br>55, 506n60 (PB)||Scholars have declared that there is no language called "Reformed Egyptian." | ||
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*[[Book of Mormon anachronisms/Reformed Egyptian|Reformed Egyptian]]<br>[[../../Use of sources/Reformed Egyptian|Use of sources: Reformed Egyptian]] | |||
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*John A. Wilson, letter to Marvin Cowan, March 16, 1966 quoted in {{CriticalWork:Tanner:Changing World|pages=144}} | *John A. Wilson, letter to Marvin Cowan, March 16, 1966 quoted in {{CriticalWork:Tanner:Changing World|pages=144}} | ||
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|55, 508 n.62||Joseph used his "peep-stone" to translate the Book of Mormon.||[[Book of Mormon translation method]]|| | |55, 508 n.62||Joseph used his "peep-stone" to translate the Book of Mormon. | ||
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*Hiel Lewis, "Review of Mormonism: Rejoinder to Elder Cadwell." ''Amboy Journal'', June 4, 1879, quoted in {{CriticalWork:Quinn:Magic World View|pages=172}}. | *Hiel Lewis, "Review of Mormonism: Rejoinder to Elder Cadwell." ''Amboy Journal'', June 4, 1879, quoted in {{CriticalWork:Quinn:Magic World View|pages=172}}. | ||
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|56, 508 n.63-65||Emma Smith and David Whitmer said that Joseph translated using his seer stone in a hat.||[[Book of Mormon translation method]]|| | |56, 508 n.63-65||Emma Smith and David Whitmer said that Joseph translated using his seer stone in a hat. | ||
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*Emma Smith Bidamon, Interview with Joseph Smith, III, February 1879, reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 1, 539. | *Emma Smith Bidamon, Interview with Joseph Smith, III, February 1879, reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 1, 539. | ||
*Martin Harris, Interview with Anthony Metcalf, c. 1873-1874. Quoted in A. Metcalf, ''Ten Years Before the Mast...'', reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 2, 346-347. | *Martin Harris, Interview with Anthony Metcalf, c. 1873-1874. Quoted in A. Metcalf, ''Ten Years Before the Mast...'', reprinted in Vogel, ''Early Mormon Documents'', vol. 2, 346-347. | ||
*David Whitmer, ''An Address to all believers in Christ'', 12. | *David Whitmer, ''An Address to all believers in Christ'', 12. | ||
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Claims made in "Chapter 2: Moroni, Magic, and Masonry" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Chapter 4: Smith's Golden Book" |
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41, 500 n.2-4 | Joseph used at least two seer stones. |
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42, 500 n.7 | Issac Hale, Emma's father, disapproved of Joseph because of his money digging activities. |
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44 | Joseph was pronounced "guilty" of performing illegal activities with the stone. |
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46, 503 n.18 | Hugh Nibley said, "If this court recored is authentic, it is the most damning evidence in existence against Joseph Smith. |
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46, 503 n.20 | Francis Kirkham claimed that "If any evidence had been in existence that Joseph Smith had used a seer stone for fraud and deception, and expcially had he made this confession in a court of law as early as 1826, or four years before the Book of Mormon was printed, and this confession was in a court record, it would have been impossible for hism to have organized the resorted Church. |
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47, 503 n.22 | Joseph realized that "money-digging alone was bringing in ony about $14 a month, which was not nearly enough to support a family." |
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47, 503 n.23 | Joseph initially "attached no religious significance" to the "golden book" that he told people he would be retrieving. He instead "touted it as a book that would 'tell him how to get money that was buried in the ground.'" |
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48, 503 n.25 | Joseph decided to convert his book into a saga about America's ancient inhabitants as a money making scheme. |
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503 n.25 | Joseph tried to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon in Canada. |
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48, 503-4 n.29-32 | One of Joseph's early descriptions of Moroni was of a bloody ghost with his throat cut. |
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50-51, n.34-36 | "The Smiths eventually changed Joseph's 'dream' of a ghost to a 'vision' of a spirit (but not yet an angel)...A 'toad-like' creature 'assumed the appearance of a man' and struck Joseph on the side of his head, telling him that it was not yet time to retrieve the plates." |
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51 | "A subsequent version of Smith's ever-changing tale..." |
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51 | "Until well into the late 1800s it was widely understood that Smith found the golden plates not by a dream, or a ghost, or a vision—but by looking into his peep-stone and seeing where they had been deposited. |
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51 | "all of the religious aspects of Smith's adventures came much later." |
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52 | Joseph Smith claimed that the moon was inhabited. |
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52 | Joseph taught the doctrine of "Caucasians advancing to godhood" |
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52 | Joseph taught the notion that "Blacks, Indians, and other people of color are cursed spirits." |
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53, 505-506n47 (HB) 53, 503-504n47 (PB) |
"After all, no one had actually seen the plates, nor would anyoneever see them" |
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505 n.47 | The witnesses only saw the plates through "visionary experiences." | ||
505 n.47 | The eight witnesses only saw the plates as long as they were covered with a cloth of some kind. |
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505 n.47 | Martin Harris said that none of the eight witnesses ever saw the plates, and that he only handled them in a box or under a cloth. |
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505 n.47 | Joseph Smith claimed that the Three Witnesses saw the plates in a vision. |
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505 n.47 | David Whitmer "agreed that neither he, nor the other Three Witnesses, ever physically saw or handled the plates. |
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508 n.59 | "Mormons often try to discredit Anthon by pointing out an alleged discrepancy between his letters, but there exists no such discrepancy. |
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55, 508n60 (HB) 55, 506n60 (PB) |
Scholars have declared that there is no language called "Reformed Egyptian." |
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55, 508 n.62 | Joseph used his "peep-stone" to translate the Book of Mormon. |
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56, 508 n.63-65 | Emma Smith and David Whitmer said that Joseph translated using his seer stone in a hat. |
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