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Question: What did Joseph Smith tell Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner about plural marriage?


"Somebody could walk into this room<br>
Mary joined the Church in October 1830, and so was among the first members.<ref>''Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine'' 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260. {{link|https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE93903}}</ref> She seems to have been mature for her age; she had heard about the Book of Mormon, but had not even seen a copy prior to her baptism. She wrote:
And say your life is on fire.<br>
It's all over the evening news,<br>
All about the fire in your life on the evening news."<br>
:- Paul Simon, "Crazy Love, Vol. II," ''Graceland'' album (1986).


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<blockquote>About this time, John Whitmer came and brought a Book of Mormon. There was a meeting that evening, and we learned that Brother Morley had the Book in his possession the only one in that part of the country. I went to his house just before the meeting was to commence, and asked to see the book; Brother Morley put it in my hand, as I looked at it, I felt such a desire to read it, that I could not refrain from asking him to let me take it home and read it, while he attended meeting. He said it would be too late for me to take it back after meeting, and another thing, he had hardly had time to read a chapter in it himself, and but few of the brethren had even seen it, but I pled so earnestly for it, he finally said, "Child, if you will bring this book home before breakfast tomorrow morning, you may take it." He admonished me to be very careful, and see that no harm came to it.
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If any person in this world was ever perfectly happy in the possession of any coveted treasure I was when I had permission to read that wonderful book. Uncle and Aunt were Methodists, so when I got into the house, I exclaimed, "Oh, Uncle, I have got the 'Golden Bible'." Well, there was consternation in the house for a few moments, and I was severely reprimanded for being so presumptuous as to ask such a favor, when Brother Morley had not read it himself. However, we all took turns reading it until very late in the night as soon as it was light enough to see, I was up and learned the first verse in the book. When I reached Brother Morley's they had been up for only a little while. When I handed him the book, he remarked, "I guess you did not read much in it." I showed him how far we had read. He was surprised and said, "I don't believe you can tell me one word of it." I then repeated the first verse, also the outlines of the history of Nephi. He gazed at me in surprise, and said, "child, take this book home and finish it, I can wait."<ref>''Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine'' 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260.</ref></blockquote>


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Joseph Smith came to Kirtland at about the time she finished reading the Book of Mormon:


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Brother Whitney brought the Prophet Joseph to our house and introduced him to the older ones of the family (I was not in at the time.) In looking around he saw the Book of Mormon on the shelf, and asked how that book came to be there. He said, "I sent that book to Brother Morley." Uncle told him how his niece had obtained it. He asked, "Where is your niece?" I was sent for; when he saw me he looked at me so earnestly, I felt almost afraid. After a moment or two he came and put his hands on my head and gave me a great blessing, the first I ever received, and made me a present of the book, and said he would give Brother Morley another. He came in time to rebuke the evil spirits, and set the church in order. We all felt that he was a man of God, for he spoke with power, and as one having authority in very deed.<ref>''Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine'' 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260.</ref>
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{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:3:Mormonism does justice to glory and majesty of Christ‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:4:Mormons don't know where to stop giving glory to Jesus‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:5:Mormons, Nicea, and Plato‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:6:Mormons retrieved early Christian beliefs rejected by creeds}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:7:Mormons and creatio ex nihilo}}
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{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:9:Mormon trinitarian views are not polytheistic}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:10:Preexistent Jesus and a divinized humanity‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:11:Do Mormons make too much of Jesus Christ‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:12:Mormons are not Arians}}
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{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:18:Joseph Smith's doctrine and character demand our amazement‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:19:Vastness of Joseph Smith's theology - it is not pagan‎}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:20:Joseph Smith does not deny grace or claim to earn salvation}}
{{:Source:Webb:BYUS:2011:21:Joseph Smith's theosis does not supplant God or veer into polytheism}}

Revision as of 17:01, 27 November 2018

Question: What did Joseph Smith tell Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner about plural marriage?

Mary joined the Church in October 1830, and so was among the first members.[1] She seems to have been mature for her age; she had heard about the Book of Mormon, but had not even seen a copy prior to her baptism. She wrote:

About this time, John Whitmer came and brought a Book of Mormon. There was a meeting that evening, and we learned that Brother Morley had the Book in his possession the only one in that part of the country. I went to his house just before the meeting was to commence, and asked to see the book; Brother Morley put it in my hand, as I looked at it, I felt such a desire to read it, that I could not refrain from asking him to let me take it home and read it, while he attended meeting. He said it would be too late for me to take it back after meeting, and another thing, he had hardly had time to read a chapter in it himself, and but few of the brethren had even seen it, but I pled so earnestly for it, he finally said, "Child, if you will bring this book home before breakfast tomorrow morning, you may take it." He admonished me to be very careful, and see that no harm came to it. If any person in this world was ever perfectly happy in the possession of any coveted treasure I was when I had permission to read that wonderful book. Uncle and Aunt were Methodists, so when I got into the house, I exclaimed, "Oh, Uncle, I have got the 'Golden Bible'." Well, there was consternation in the house for a few moments, and I was severely reprimanded for being so presumptuous as to ask such a favor, when Brother Morley had not read it himself. However, we all took turns reading it until very late in the night as soon as it was light enough to see, I was up and learned the first verse in the book. When I reached Brother Morley's they had been up for only a little while. When I handed him the book, he remarked, "I guess you did not read much in it." I showed him how far we had read. He was surprised and said, "I don't believe you can tell me one word of it." I then repeated the first verse, also the outlines of the history of Nephi. He gazed at me in surprise, and said, "child, take this book home and finish it, I can wait."[2]

Joseph Smith came to Kirtland at about the time she finished reading the Book of Mormon:

Brother Whitney brought the Prophet Joseph to our house and introduced him to the older ones of the family (I was not in at the time.) In looking around he saw the Book of Mormon on the shelf, and asked how that book came to be there. He said, "I sent that book to Brother Morley." Uncle told him how his niece had obtained it. He asked, "Where is your niece?" I was sent for; when he saw me he looked at me so earnestly, I felt almost afraid. After a moment or two he came and put his hands on my head and gave me a great blessing, the first I ever received, and made me a present of the book, and said he would give Brother Morley another. He came in time to rebuke the evil spirits, and set the church in order. We all felt that he was a man of God, for he spoke with power, and as one having authority in very deed.[3]

  1. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260. [{{{1}}} off-site]
  2. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260.
  3. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine 17 (July 1926): 193-205, 250-260.