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Unique to the Hyde's marriage is the fact that Marinda was sealed to Orson following Joseph's death.  All of the Prophet's other polyandrous wives were posthumously sealed to Joseph by proxy. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=240–242}}</ref>
Unique to the Hyde's marriage is the fact that Marinda was sealed to Orson following Joseph's death.  All of the Prophet's other polyandrous wives were posthumously sealed to Joseph by proxy. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=240–242}}</ref>
===The accounts of the sealing of Marinda to Joseph are contradictory===
Much of what we know about the Hyde sealing is also contaminated by hostile, mutually contradictory accounts that contain some known false information.
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| Sidney Rigdon<ref>J. GI SON DIVINE [Sidney Rigdon], "To the Sisters of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints," ''Latter Day Saint's Messenger and Advocate'' (Pittsburgh) 1/10 (15 March 1845): 154–158.</ref> ||1845||
*Orson unaware of marriage
*Orson refused to live with wife when he found out
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Contrary to claim, Orson continued to live with Miranda and father children by her.
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| William Hall<ref>{{CriticalWork:Hall:Abominations of Mormonism/Full title|pages=113}}</ref> ||1852||
* Joseph demanded Miranda and all Orson's money to let him back in the Church
* "Many jokes were cracked at his [Hyde's] expense."
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Very unlikely—no record of others mocking Hyde; Hall is unreliable on other marriages as well. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=239}}</ref>  Orson's return to the quorum was in June 1839, <ref> See {{Book:Smith:HC/Short|pages=345|vol=3}} {{Book:Roberts:CHC|pages=24–25n12|vol=2}} {{Book:Woodruff:Journal|vol=1|pages=340|date=25 June 1839}}</ref> putting Hall's account two years too early for marriage. <ref>See {{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=238}}</ref>
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| Ann Eliza Young<ref>{{CriticalWork:Young:Wife No. 19/Full title|pages=324&ndash;326}}</ref> ||1876||
* Orson did not know of marriage
* Angry when he learned of it
* Swore would not live with his wife; did so anyway.
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Too young to have any first-hand knowledge of Nauvoo, her book's intent was clearly to titillate with stories of polygamous intrigue.  Claims that Brigham told Orson that she was only to be his wife for time, and Joseph's for eternity—but this is frankly false, since sealed to Orson in early 1846. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=243}}: "Marinda was sealed to Orson Hyde, not Smith, for time and eternity on January 11, 1846."</ref>  She also confuses the temporality, since she describes Hyde "in a furious passion," because "he thought it no harm for him to win the affection of another man's wife… but he did not propose having his rights interfered with even by the holy Prophet whose teachings he so implicitly followed" (326).  Yet, Orson did not begin practicing plural marriage until after he knew of Miranda's sealing to Joseph.
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| John D. Lee<ref>{{CriticalWork:Lee:Mormonism Unvailed/Full title|pages=147}}</ref> ||1877||
* "Report said that Hyde's wife, with his consent, was sealed to Joseph for an eternal state, but I do not assert the fact."
||Lee's work was published posthumously and may have been altered by anti-Mormon editor.
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The Hydes were to divorce in 1870: "The precise reasons for the divorce are not known, but it appears that Orson was giving most of his attention to his younger wives at this time." <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=230–243}}</ref>
Two of Marinda's children have been suggested as potential children by Joseph, but this is very unlikely (see [[Joseph_Smith_and_polygamy/Children_of_polygamous_marriages/Book_chapter|here]]).


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Question: Was Apostle Orson Hyde who was sent on a mission to dedicate Israel so that Joseph Smith could secretly marry his wife, Marinda Hyde, while he was away?

Orson was involved briefly with apostasy at Far West in the fall of 1838, but had returned to the Church by March 1839

Nancy married future apostle Orson Hyde on 4 September 1834. He was involved briefly with apostasy at Far West in the fall of 1838, but had returned to the Church by March 1839 following a dramatic vision in which he saw the consequence of continued rebellion. [1]

Marinda was sealed to Joseph in April 1842, while Orson was on a mission. Only antagonistic accounts of this sealing exist. [2] Of the four reports, two claim that Orson was aware of the sealing, and two claim that he was not.

Orson had been on his mission for about a year before the sealing

It is of note that Orson had been on his mission for about a year before the sealing--he departed on 15 April 1840, and would return 7 December 1842. There are two dates available for her sealing to Joseph--either April/Spring 1842, or May 1843.[3] Thus, even with the earliest sealing date, Orson had been gone for nearly two years prior to Joseph's sealing to Nancy.

This long delay does not fit well with the claim that a sexually-aggressive Joseph simply wanted his male rivals out of the way.

Marinda was sealed to Orson following Joseph's death

Unique to the Hyde's marriage is the fact that Marinda was sealed to Orson following Joseph's death. All of the Prophet's other polyandrous wives were posthumously sealed to Joseph by proxy. [4]


Notes

  1. Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, 234.
  2. Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, 238–239.
  3. Hales, Joseph Smith's Polygamy Vol. 1.
  4. Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, 240–242.