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*What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith went to the jail in Carthage like a "Lamb to the Slaughter" | *What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith went to the jail in Carthage like a "Lamb to the Slaughter" | ||
*What the history/facts tell us: Exposure of polygamy and destruction of printing press led to martyrdom. | *What the history/facts tell us: Exposure of polygamy and destruction of printing press led to martyrdom. | ||
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"Chapter 22: The Martyrdom," ''Church History In The Fulness Of Times'' Student Manual, (2003), 273–285 {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/manual/church-history-in-the-fulness-of-times-student-manual/chapter-twenty-two-the-martyrdom?lang=eng&query=expositor}} | "Chapter 22: The Martyrdom," ''Church History In The Fulness Of Times'' Student Manual, (2003), 273–285 {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/manual/church-history-in-the-fulness-of-times-student-manual/chapter-twenty-two-the-martyrdom?lang=eng&query=expositor}} | ||
Revision as of 04:22, 1 June 2012
A FAIR Analysis of: "Why People Leave the LDS Church" (2008) A work by author: John P. Dehlin
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was a pure, innocent boy.
- What the history/facts tell us: Joseph used a "magical peep stone" to help people find buried treasure.
Things to think about
Quotes to think about
Joseph Smith—History 28, Pearl of Great Price
I was left to all kinds of temptations; and, mingling with all kinds of society, I frequently fell into many foolish errors, and displayed the weakness of youth, and the foibles of human nature; which, I am sorry to say, led me into divers temptations, offensive in the sight of God.
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith turned down alcohol in surgery
- What the history/facts tell us: Joseph drank beer and wine as an adult (his own journal)
Things to think about
- It is true that the story of Joseph's leg operation should not be used as a lesson on the Word of Wisdom.
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith saw God and Jesus
- What the history/facts tell us: First vision has multiple, and varied accounts (Pres. Hinckley)
Author's source(s) I am not worried that the Prophet Joseph Smith gave a number of versions of the first vision anymore than I am worried that there are four different writers of the gospels in the New Testament, each with his own perceptions, each telling the events to meet his own purpose for writing at the time. I am more concerned with the fact that God has revealed in this dispensation a great and marvelous and beautiful plan that motivates men and women to love their Creator and their Redeemer, to appreciate and serve one another, to walk in faith on the road that leads to immortality and eternal life.
—“God Hath Not Given Us the Spirit of Fear,” Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign, Oct 1984, 2 off-site
Things to think about
- Joseph did see God and Jesus.
- Joseph's 1832 journal account of the First Vision is the only one that does not mention a second personage. The remainder of the "multiple, varied accounts" all claim that Joseph saw two personages.
Quotes to think about
During a 10-year period (1832–42), Joseph Smith wrote or dictated at least four accounts of the First Vision. These accounts are similar in many ways, but they include some differences in emphasis and detail. These differences are complementary. Together, his accounts provide a more complete record of what occurred. The 1838 account found in the Pearl of Great Price is the primary source referred to in the Church.
—Accounts of the First Vision, Gospel Study, Study by Topic, located on lds.org. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Joseph's vision was at first an intensely personal experience—an answer to a specific question. Over time, however, illuminated by additional experience and instruction, it became the founding revelation of the Restoration.
—“Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ,” Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Ensign, Jan 2009, 16–22 off-site
Additional information
- Joseph's accounts of the First Vision—Joseph Smith gave several accounts of the First Vision. Critics charge that differences in the accounts show that he changed and embellished his story over time, and that he therefore had no such vision. (Link)
- Primary sources: First Vision accounts—We provide the text of all known accounts of Joseph Smith's First Vision. (Link)
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon using the "Urim and Thummim"
- What the history/facts tell us:The same "peep stone" was used to translate the Book of Mormon—Stone in the hat, plates not in sight (Russell M. Nelson)
Things to think about
- By 1832, both the Nephite Interpreters and the seer stone were referred to by Church members as the "Urim and Thummim."
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith had one wife—Emma
- What the history/facts tell us: Joseph had 30 wives, some of them married to other men, several teenagers (familysearch.org)
Things to think about
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was falsely accused and persecuted
- What the history/facts tell us: [Joseph's use of a "magical peep stone"] was the reason for some of the early "trials" and court cases involving Joseph (Court records) Joseph denied polygamy publicly (Oaks)
Things to think about
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith went to the jail in Carthage like a "Lamb to the Slaughter"
- What the history/facts tell us: Exposure of polygamy and destruction of printing press led to martyrdom.
Things to think about
- The destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor has always been taught to have led to the martyrdom.
Quotes to think about
"Chapter 22: The Martyrdom," Church History In The Fulness Of Times Student Manual, (2003), 273–285 off-site
The Expositor Affair. Leaders of the conspiracy were exposed in the Times and Seasons and were excommunicated from the Church. Thwarted in their plans, the dissenters decided to publish an opposition newspaper. The first and only issue of their paper, which was called the Nauvoo Expositor, appeared on 7 June 1844. Throughout the paper they accused Joseph Smith of teaching vicious principles, practicing whoredoms, advocating so-called spiritual wifery, grasping for political power, preaching that there were many gods, speaking blasphemously of God, and promoting an inquisition.
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The excitement was so intense that [Governor] Ford published an open letter urging calmness and then went to Carthage to neutralize a situation that threatened civil war. He also wrote to Joseph Smith insisting that only a trial of the city council members before a non-Mormon jury in Carthage would satisfy the people.
Joseph Smith, History of the Church, 6:547–49.
If my life is of no value to my friends it is of none to myself.
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
- What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was 2nd to Jesus in Righteousness (no man has done more for the salvation of others except Jesus Christ)
Things to think about