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===Claims made in "Chapter 5: Salt Lake City, August 24, 1849"=== | ===Claims made in "Chapter 5: Salt Lake City, August 24, 1849"=== | ||
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| | The author notes that several new federal officials fled the Utah Territory because they felt threatened. | ||
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*{{CrossRef:Abanes:One Nation|chapter=11|pages=227-228}}. Both authors rely upon the same source for this claim. | *{{CrossRef:Abanes:One Nation|chapter=11|pages=227-228}}. Both authors rely upon the same source for this claim. | ||
*For a response, see: [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Early federal territorial officials|Threats to early federal officials?]] | *For a response, see: [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Early federal territorial officials|Threats to early federal officials?]] | ||
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*House Exec. Doc. 25, 15 quoted in {{CriticalWork:Bigler:Forgotten Kingdom|pages=59}} | *House Exec. Doc. 25, 15 quoted in {{CriticalWork:Bigler:Forgotten Kingdom|pages=59}} | ||
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Blood atonement | |||
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* | *{{Detail|Mormonism and doctrine/Repudiated concepts/Blood atonement}} | ||
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*Gunnison, 83. | *Gunnison, 83. | ||
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The author claims that apostasy and adultery were punishable by beheading. | |||
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* | *{{Detail|Utah/Crime and violence/Crimes critics allege to have been "worthy of death" in the 1800's}} | ||
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*Gunnison, 72. | *Gunnison, 72. | ||
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Brigham is claimed to have said that the revelation on polygamy said that "all worthy men" should cleave to as many women as possible. | |||
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*According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852." | *According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852." | ||
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Brigham said that Adam was God and was a polygamist. | |||
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* | *{{Detail|Mormonism and doctrine/Repudiated concepts/Adam-God}} | ||
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*According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852." | *According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852." | ||
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Brigham is said to have threatened to "unsheathe" his bowie knife against the Gladdenites. | |||
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*Although the author provides no source, this reference is found in {{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|disc=14|vol=1|start=83}} Brigham says, | *Although the author provides no source, this reference is found in {{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|disc=14|vol=1|start=83}} Brigham says, | ||
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I say, rather than that apostates should flourish here, I will unsheath my bowie knife, and conquer or die. [Great commotion in the congregation, and a simultaneous burst of feeling, assenting to the declaration.] Now, you nasty apostates, clear out, or judgment will be put to the line, and righteousness to the plummet. [Voices, generally, "go it, go it."] If you say it is right, raise your hands. [All hands up.] Let us call upon the Lord to assist us in this, and every good work. | I say, rather than that apostates should flourish here, I will unsheath my bowie knife, and conquer or die. [Great commotion in the congregation, and a simultaneous burst of feeling, assenting to the declaration.] Now, you nasty apostates, clear out, or judgment will be put to the line, and righteousness to the plummet. [Voices, generally, "go it, go it."] If you say it is right, raise your hands. [All hands up.] Let us call upon the Lord to assist us in this, and every good work. | ||
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* | *{{Detail|One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Brigham_and_bowie_knife|l1=Brigham and "unsheathing the bowie knife"}} | ||
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*No source provided. | *No source provided. | ||
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Claims made in "Chapter 5: Salt Lake City, August 24, 1849"
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Claim
The author notes that several new federal officials fled the Utah Territory because they felt threatened.
Author's source(s)
- House Exec. Doc. 25, 15 quoted in David L. Bigler, Forgotten Kingdom: The Mormon Theocracy in the American West, 1847–1896 (Logan, Utah: Utah State University Press, 1998), 59. (bias and errors) Review
Response
- This claim is also made in One Nation Under Gods: p. 227-228 . Both authors rely upon the same source for this claim.
- For a response, see: Threats to early federal officials?
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|claim= Blood atonement |response=
- For a detailed response, see: Mormonism and doctrine/Repudiated concepts/Blood atonement
|authorsources=
- Gunnison, 83.
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|claim= The author claims that apostasy and adultery were punishable by beheading. |response=
- For a detailed response, see: Utah/Crime and violence/Crimes critics allege to have been "worthy of death" in the 1800's
|authorsources=
- Gunnison, 72.
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|claim= Brigham is claimed to have said that the revelation on polygamy said that "all worthy men" should cleave to as many women as possible. |response=
|authorsources=
- According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852."
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|claim= Brigham said that Adam was God and was a polygamist. |response=
- For a detailed response, see: Mormonism and doctrine/Repudiated concepts/Adam-God
|authorsources=
- According to the author, this was said by Brigham Young at "an emergency conference of Young's apostles organized in August 1852."
}}
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|claim= Brigham is said to have threatened to "unsheathe" his bowie knife against the Gladdenites. |response=
- Although the author provides no source, this reference is found in Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:83. Brigham says,
I say, rather than that apostates should flourish here, I will unsheath my bowie knife, and conquer or die. [Great commotion in the congregation, and a simultaneous burst of feeling, assenting to the declaration.] Now, you nasty apostates, clear out, or judgment will be put to the line, and righteousness to the plummet. [Voices, generally, "go it, go it."] If you say it is right, raise your hands. [All hands up.] Let us call upon the Lord to assist us in this, and every good work.
- For a detailed response, see: Brigham and "unsheathing the bowie knife"
|authorsources=
- No source provided.
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