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||Joseph Smith said: "Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species..." | || | ||
*Joseph Smith said in ''History of the Church'': "Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species..." | |||
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* [[../../Notable omissions/Joseph Smith and confining the negro|Notable omissions: Joseph Smith and confining the negro]] | * [[../../Notable omissions/Joseph Smith and confining the negro|Notable omissions: Joseph Smith and confining the negro]] | ||
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||"Mormonism and racism have for many years been synonymous terms to persons well acquainted with Latter-day Saint beliefs." | || | ||
*{{AuthorQuote|"Mormonism and racism have for many years been synonymous terms to persons well acquainted with Latter-day Saint beliefs."}} | |||
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* The author's hostility and many errors on this and many other points of LDS belief demonstrate that ''he'', at least, is not one of these persons so acquainted. | * The author's hostility and many errors on this and many other points of LDS belief demonstrate that ''he'', at least, is not one of these persons so acquainted. | ||
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*Did the granting of the priesthood to blacks in 1978 fail to "eradicate the previous 148 years of Mormon racist/white supremacist teachings?" | |||
*Were these teaching all related to the LDS doctrine of pre-existence? | |||
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* {{InternalContradiction|[[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_16#370|p. 370]] tells us that 'Mormons, by and large, were pleased that God had changed his mind at such a convenient time in history.' So, why were the Mormons happy about the revelation if their supposedly racist mindset could hardly be eradicated by the 1978 revelation?}} | * {{InternalContradiction|[[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_16#370|p. 370]] tells us that 'Mormons, by and large, were pleased that God had changed his mind at such a convenient time in history.' So, why were the Mormons happy about the revelation if their supposedly racist mindset could hardly be eradicated by the 1978 revelation?}} | ||
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*Do Latter-day Saints believe that everyone's place in the world was determined by how they behaved in the pre-mortal world? | |||
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* Note that the word '''traditional'''. {{Abanes:One Nation:Racism Repudiated}} | * Note that the word '''traditional'''. {{Abanes:One Nation:Racism Repudiated}} | ||
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*{{AuthorQuote|These admirable spirits served God well, followed his commands, and did the most with their talents before coming to earth. Consequently, they are rewarded by being born into favorable circumstances. To be specific, they are born as Mormons in America, or at the very least, somewhere in a predominantly Caucasian country. More righteous spirits are born with more advantages. Less commendable spirits, however, are born with fewer advantages, into lives of greater or lesser quality depending on how poorly they performed in the pre-earth world. Moreover, they are born as non-whites. This is their punishment for not having been all they could have been during the pre-existence.}} | |||
These admirable spirits served God well, followed his commands, and did the most with their talents before coming to earth. Consequently, they are rewarded by being born into favorable circumstances. To be specific, they are born as Mormons in America, or at the very least, somewhere in a predominantly Caucasian country. More righteous spirits are born with more advantages. Less commendable spirits, however, are born with fewer advantages, into lives of greater or lesser quality depending on how poorly they performed in the pre-earth world. Moreover, they are born as non-whites. This is their punishment for not having been all they could have been during the pre-existence. | |||
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A quote from Apostle Mark E. Petersen is provided to support this assertion. | A quote from Apostle Mark E. Petersen is provided to support this assertion. | ||
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*Does Latter-day Saint doctrine teach that black is not an "honourable body?" | |||
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* Such teachings have been [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Understanding_pre-1978_statements#Avoid_speculating_without_knowledge|repudiated]]. Revelation has [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Understanding_pre-1978_statements#Understanding_pre-1978_statements|clarified]] false or incomplete former beliefs. | * Such teachings have been [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Understanding_pre-1978_statements#Avoid_speculating_without_knowledge|repudiated]]. Revelation has [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Understanding_pre-1978_statements#Understanding_pre-1978_statements|clarified]] false or incomplete former beliefs. | ||
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*Were those who "fought on Christ's side" in the pre-existence born as "privileged Mormon whites?" | |||
*Were those who were "less valiant" born as blacks? | |||
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* {{Abanes:One Nation:McConkie Distorted}} | * {{Abanes:One Nation:McConkie Distorted}} | ||
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||Brigham Young and Bruce R. McConkie | || | ||
*Didn't Brigham Young and Bruce R. McConkie claim that blacks were of the lineage of Cain? | |||
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*[[Blacks and the priesthood/The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"]] | *[[Blacks and the priesthood/The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"]] | ||
*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | ||
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*McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'' p. 109. | *McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'' p. 109. | ||
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*Did Bruce R. McConkie say in his 1966 edition of Mormon Doctrine: "The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned...[B]ut this inequality is not of man's origin. It is the Lord's doing." *Did Joseph Fielding Smith make a similar statement? | |||
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{{Abanes:One Nation:McConkie Distorted}} | {{Abanes:One Nation:McConkie Distorted}} | ||
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||"Fourth generation Mormon" Thelma Geer said: | || | ||
*"Fourth generation Mormon" Thelma Geer said: | |||
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"As a white Mormon, I proudly accepted the teaching that my fair skin and Mormon parentage signified that I had been one of God's most intelligent and obedient born-in-heaven spirit children....As a reward for my superior attributes and attitudes, I had been singled out, trained, and qualified to be born a white Latter-day Saint, deserving of emulation, adulation, and eventual deification. All dark-skinned people, even darker-complexioned Caucasians...had been inferior spirits in heaven." | "As a white Mormon, I proudly accepted the teaching that my fair skin and Mormon parentage signified that I had been one of God's most intelligent and obedient born-in-heaven spirit children....As a reward for my superior attributes and attitudes, I had been singled out, trained, and qualified to be born a white Latter-day Saint, deserving of emulation, adulation, and eventual deification. All dark-skinned people, even darker-complexioned Caucasians...had been inferior spirits in heaven." | ||
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*Was interracial marriage condemned by Brigham Young as "one of the most heinous of deeds?" | |||
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*{{HistoricalError}}: interracial marriage was illegal in Brigham Young's day. The relationships which he was discussing were ''not'' marriages, and he condemned the white person for exploiting the black. | *{{HistoricalError}}: interracial marriage was illegal in Brigham Young's day. The relationships which he was discussing were ''not'' marriages, and he condemned the white person for exploiting the black. | ||
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||Mark E. Petersen | || | ||
*Did Mark E. Petersen say that segregation was acceptable, and the interracial marriage "posed a danger?" | |||
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*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism Repudiated}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism Repudiated}} | ||
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*Did Latter-day Saints not support the Civil Rights movement because they had "strong feelings of racial superiority infused into them by years of white supremacist teachings," as claimed by Wallace Turner? | |||
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*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | ||
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*Did LDS leaders instruct a missionary to "not to work with the poor and to tell blacks that they should attend the church of their choice, but not the Mormon church?" | |||
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*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | ||
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||David O. McKay was "blocked from | || | ||
*Was David O. McKay was "blocked" from granting Blacks the priesthood by Ezra Taft Benson, Harold B. Lee, and Joseph Fielding Smith? | |||
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||George Wallace | || | ||
*When George Wallace asked President David O. McKay if Ezra Taft Benson could be his vice-presidential running mate, this request was denied. Did this, as the author asserts, "illustrate the serious in-fighting and strained relations between Benson and his supporters on one side, and more moderate high-ranking LDS authorities on McKay's side?" | |||
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*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | ||
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||By the time Spencer W. Kimball took over as Church president "the church had been enduring non-stop pressure to conform with America's realization that racial inequality had to end." | || | ||
*By the time Spencer W. Kimball took over as Church president "the church had been enduring non-stop pressure to conform with America's realization that racial inequality had to end." | |||
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*{{HistoricalError}}: [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Social_pressure|Social pressure on priesthood issue?]] | *{{HistoricalError}}: [[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Social_pressure|Social pressure on priesthood issue?]] | ||
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||President Kimball | || | ||
*Was President Kimball forced to change the priesthood restriction because of the new temple in Brazil? | |||
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*{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | *{{Abanes:One Nation:Racism}} | ||
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||"Like the Manifesto, the 1978 policy change was billed as a 'revelation' from God" | || | ||
*{{AuthorQuote|"Like the Manifesto, the 1978 policy change was billed as a 'revelation' from God"}} | |||
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* [[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]] | * [[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]] | ||
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||"Mormons, by and large, were pleased that God had changed his mind at such a convenient time in history." | || | ||
*{{AuthorQuote|"Mormons, by and large, were pleased that God had changed his mind at such a convenient time in history."}} | |||
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*{{InternalContradiction|On [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_16#356|p. 356]], we are told the 1978 revelation "could hardly eradicate the previous 148 years of Mormon racist/white supremacist teachings." See also [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_15#353|p. 353]] where LDS beliefs are called "white supremacist." So, why were most Mormons "pleased" if they were still suffering from the burden of racist attitudes and white supremacist beliefs? Why would racists be happy about the change?}} | *{{InternalContradiction|On [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_16#356|p. 356]], we are told the 1978 revelation "could hardly eradicate the previous 148 years of Mormon racist/white supremacist teachings." See also [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Index/Chapter_15#353|p. 353]] where LDS beliefs are called "white supremacist." So, why were most Mormons "pleased" if they were still suffering from the burden of racist attitudes and white supremacist beliefs? Why would racists be happy about the change?}} |
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"Lifting the ban also opened up missionary doors to the Caribbean, Central America, Haiti, and other lands where Black ancestry is prominent in the population." |
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"As a result [of the priesthood revelation], millions of dollars began flowing into the church's coffers. Thus began Mormonism's move toward becoming one of the world's wealthiest religions." |
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Brigham Young said that Blacks would not receive the priesthood until after the resurrection of the dead. |
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"The spiritual 'out' for Mormons is that rather illogical belief that the words of a living prophet...always supercede [check spelling] the teachings of a dead prophet." |
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The following question has "never been adequately answered by Mormons...If God has removed the curse that at one time kept Blacks from the priesthood, then why has he not removed the marks of that curse..." |
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"The following question has "never been adequately answered by Mormons...If some spirits continue to be cursed with black skin because of their unrighteous behavior in the pre-mortal world, then why does that same unrighteous behavior now no longer disqualify them from the priesthood?" |
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The following question has "never been adequately answered by Mormons...If black skin is no longer a sign of a special curse, then does that mean white skin is no longer a sign of a special blessing?" |
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The following question has "never been adequately answered by Mormons...If a racially mixed couple conceived a child before June 9, 1978, and in so doing sinned by mixing a cursed seed (Black) with an un-cursed seed (White), then after June 9, 1978, were they still guilty of the sin of race-mixing since Blacks were no longer cursed from the priesthood?" |
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