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*George D. Smith, ''An Intimate Chronicle: The Journals of William Clayton (1995), 27. | *George D. Smith, ''An Intimate Chronicle: The Journals of William Clayton (1995), 27. | ||
*Joseph Smith, letter to Whitney family, Aug. 18, 1842, photocopy, George Albert Smith papers, Special Collections, | *Joseph Smith, letter to Whitney family, Aug. 18, 1842, photocopy, George Albert Smith papers, Special Collections, Marriott Library. | ||
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||"Coexisting with these two deities was a limitless amount of cosmic spirit matter known as "intelligence," out of which Elohim and Heavenly Mother made countelss spirit babies via celestial sex." | ||"Coexisting with these two deities was a limitless amount of cosmic spirit matter known as "intelligence," out of which Elohim and Heavenly Mother made countelss{{cs}} spirit babies via celestial sex." | ||
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*[[One Nation Under Gods#Celestial sex?|Celestial sex?]] | *[[One Nation Under Gods#Celestial sex?|Celestial sex?]] | ||
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||"Modern LDS scholar George D. Smith" in a study of 153 polygamous men "noted that two of the wives were only thirteen years old, more than a dozen girls were fourtenn, twenty-one were fifteen; and fifty-three were only sixteen." | ||"Modern LDS scholar George D. Smith" in a study of 153 polygamous men "noted that two of the wives were only thirteen years old, more than a dozen girls were fourtenn{{cs}}, twenty-one were fifteen; and fifty-three were only sixteen." | ||
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*[[Polygamy book/Age of wives]] | *[[Polygamy book/Age of wives]] | ||
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*{{Wyatt-Zina}} | *{{Wyatt-Zina}} | ||
*Stenhouse could not have heard the | *Stenhouse could not have heard the alleged comment by Brigham in 1846, since he was baptized in England on July 14, 1845, and didn't come to the United States until late 1855. His "corroboration," therefore, is of no worth, and he is likely to have simply copied Hall's claim as his own. | ||
*Hall claimed that the comment was heard "in the hearing of hundreds," yet nobody else present among these "hundreds" has ever corroborated this story. | *Hall claimed that the comment was heard "in the hearing of hundreds," yet nobody else present among these "hundreds" has ever corroborated this story. | ||
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||Orson Pratt taught that anyone not entering into plural marriage "will be damned." | ||Orson Pratt taught that anyone not entering into plural marriage "will be damned." | ||
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*The portion of Pratt's sermon on plural marriage referenced by the author is part of a discussion of how one must be sealed by a person having the proper | *The portion of Pratt's sermon on plural marriage referenced by the author is part of a discussion of how one must be sealed by a person having the proper authority in order for their marriage to be valid in the next life. Referring to the revelation on plural marriage, Pratt says "He has told us in that revelation, that only one man can hold these keys upon the earth at the same time; and they belong to that man who stands at the head to preside over all the affairs of the Church and kingdom of God in the last days. They are the sealing keys of power, or in other words, of Elijah, having been committed and restored to the earth by Elijah, the Prophet, who held many keys, among which were the keys of sealing, to bind the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers; together with all the other sealing keys and powers, pertaining to the last dispensation. They were committed by that Angel who administered in the Kirtland Temple, and spoke unto Joseph the Prophet, at the time of the endowments in that house. '''Now, let us enquire, what will become of those individuals who have this law taught unto them in plainness, if they reject it? [A voice in the stand, "they will be damned."] I will tell you: they will be damned, saith the Lord God Almighty''', in the revelation He has given..." {{ea}} | ||
*The author only uses the final (bold) portion of this quote and applies it only to the idea that one must have plural wives. | *The author only uses the final (bold) portion of this quote and applies it only to the idea that one must have plural wives. | ||
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||"Because the counsel of church leaders was to acquire plural wives, to do otherwise was tantamount to apostasy, a crime worthy of death." | ||"Because the counsel of church leaders was to acquire plural wives, to do otherwise was tantamount to apostasy, a crime worthy of death." | ||
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*The source listed by the author talks about an increase in the number of plural marriages during the "Mormon Reformation." It says nothing about apostasy being "worthy of death." The idea that | *The source listed by the author talks about an increase in the number of plural marriages during the "Mormon Reformation." It says nothing about apostasy being "worthy of death." The idea that apostasy was "worthy of death" originated with the Tanners. The author strings several different ideas together to create his conclusion that failure to acquire plural wives was "worthy of death." | ||
*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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||"[S]ingle or monogamous men were often mocked and ridiculed as practically impostent, or at the very least, weak and unable to sustain a tryly righteous family. | ||"[S]ingle or monogamous men were often mocked and ridiculed as practically impostent, or at the very least, weak and unable to sustain a tryly{{cs}} righteous family. | ||
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*The author provides no source to back up this assertion. | *The author provides no source to back up this assertion. | ||
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||Brigham said of women, "It is for you to bear children,...are you tormenting yourselves by thinking that your husbands do not love you? I would not care whether they lovead a particle or not; but I would cry out, like one of old, in the joy of my heart, 'I have got a man from the Lord!' 'Hallelujah! I am a mother—I have borne an image of God!'" | ||Brigham said of women, "It is for you to bear children,...are you tormenting yourselves by thinking that your husbands do not love you? I would not care whether they lovead{{cs}} a particle or not; but I would cry out, like one of old, in the joy of my heart, 'I have got a man from the Lord!' 'Hallelujah! I am a mother—I have borne an image of God!'" | ||
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*[[Polygamy not Biblical]] | *[[Polygamy not Biblical]] | ||
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*Various references related to providing an Evangelical view of how | *Various references related to providing an Evangelical view of how polygamy in the Bible is viewed. | ||
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||"Smith, Young, and other authorities of | ||"Smith, Young, and other authorities of the LDS church further erred in believing that the New Testament teaches polygamy; more specifically, that Jesus and his apostles were polygamists. | ||
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*Grant is actually talking about statements made by Celsus: | *Grant is actually talking about statements made by Celsus: |
Claims made in "Chapter 12: Wars and Rumors of Wars" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Chapter 14: The Politics of Compromise" |
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282, 572n8 (PB) |
"Another subterfuge Joseph used to protect himself was to have his women feign marriage to other men. Historian George D. Smith related how Joseph related how Joseph resorted to this tactic during his marriage to seventeen-year-old Sarah Ann Whitney..." |
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282, 572n8 (PB) |
"Three weeks later, while in hiding, Joseph Smith wrote a revealing letter which he addressed to [Sarah Ann Whitney's] parents...inviting them to bring their daughter to visit him." |
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283, 572n10 (PB) |
Sarah Pratt "had been propositioned by Joseph, which partly led to her rejection of Mormonism." |
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283, 572n11 (PB) |
Joseph publicly denied polygamy, stating "What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one." |
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284 (PB) |
"Many of these women actually were teenaged girls acquired by Smith when he was well into his thirties." |
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285, 573n21 |
"Coexisting with these two deities was a limitless amount of cosmic spirit matter known as "intelligence," out of which Elohim and Heavenly Mother made countelss [check spelling] spirit babies via celestial sex." |
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285, 574n25 (PB) |
"Earth, by the way, in this Mormon scenario, was fashioned as part of a joint creative project supervised by the most faithful of Heavenly Father's spiritual progeny (e.g., Jesus, Joseph Smith, Noah, Adam, John the Baptist, etc.). Elohim's other spirit children included: Lucifer, who would become the Devil (a.k.a. Satan); Napoleon; George Washington; Joseph Smith; Louis Armstrong, Donny and Marie Osmond, Senator Orrin Hatch, U.S. President George W. Bush, and everyone else who has ever lived on this planet." |
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286, 574n26 (PB) |
Elohim is a "polygamous god." |
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286 (PB) |
Elohim is "the god of this planet." |
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286, 575n29 (PB) |
"We humans are enduring the same kind of circumstances Elohim went through on his route to deification. |
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287 (PB) |
"More spirit children means more power, which in turn pushes a Mormon male further up the hierarchical ladder of gods in our universe." |
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287, 575n38(PB) |
"This is not to say that Christ was conceived in any way that might be considered supernatural. He was not miraculously begotten, for instance, by the Holy Ghost, as Christianity teaches." |
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287-8, 575n39 (PB) |
God the Father visited the earth to conceive Jesus Christ through Mary after "making her his wife" even though she was "his daughter" and "betrothed to Joseph." |
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288, 576n42-43 (PB) |
"Later as an adult, Jesus would become a polygamist, just like Elohim." |
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288, 576n44 |
The author states that the "road to godhood" for others is "far more difficult and takes considerably longer" than the route taken by Jesus Christ, since Jesus did not require "wives" or "temple rituals" to achieve godhood. |
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289, 578n51 (HB)
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290, 577n56-57 (PB) |
Ann Eliza Young in her 1875 book Wife No. 19 stated the polygamy in Utah was not an option, but a command. |
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294, 579n68 |
"LDS leadership had no problem with near relatives marrying." The author mentions the sealing of John Bernhisel to his sister, Maria, as quoted in Joseph's diary. |
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294, 579n74 |
"Modern LDS scholar George D. Smith" in a study of 153 polygamous men "noted that two of the wives were only thirteen years old, more than a dozen girls were fourtenn [check spelling], twenty-one were fifteen; and fifty-three were only sixteen." |
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295, 579n77 |
"Mormon males" treated women as "livestock or property." The endnote refers to an alleged quote made by Brigham Young to Henry Jacobs in which he is claimed to have told Jacobs that "the woman that you claim for a wife does not belong to you. She is a spiritual wife of brother Joseph...and she, in his behalf, with her children, are my property..." |
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295, 580n81-62 (PB) |
"Wife swapping" was "acceptable." |
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297, 581n88-89 (PB) |
Missionaries were instructed to not select converted women as wives before they were brought back to Utah. |
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297, 581n90-95 (PB) |
"For those men unwilling to heed Kimball's warning, LDS authorities resorted to a far more permanent means of having their wishes obeyd—castration." |
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299, 581n95 (PB) |
Brigham Young said that "[t]he only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." |
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301, 582n106 (PB) |
Orson Pratt taught that anyone not entering into plural marriage "will be damned." |
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301 (PB) |
"Monogamy was equated with a failure to obey God, which not only displeased the Almighty, but endangered one's eternal destiny." |
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301-2, 582n108 (PB) |
"Brigham said [monogamy] was the 'source of prostitution and whoredom' throughout all Christendom." |
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302, 582n109 (PB) |
"Because the counsel of church leaders was to acquire plural wives, to do otherwise was tantamount to apostasy, a crime worthy of death." |
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302 (PB) |
"[S]ingle or monogamous men were often mocked and ridiculed as practically impostent, or at the very least, weak and unable to sustain a tryly [check spelling] righteous family. |
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303, 582n111 (PB) |
"Women were told...that they told only be saved through men, whose responsibility it would be to call them forth from the grave so that they could receive salvation..." |
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304, 583n114 (PB) |
Brigham said of women, "It is for you to bear children,...are you tormenting yourselves by thinking that your husbands do not love you? I would not care whether they lovead [check spelling] a particle or not; but I would cry out, like one of old, in the joy of my heart, 'I have got a man from the Lord!' 'Hallelujah! I am a mother—I have borne an image of God!'" |
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305 (PB) |
"Nowhere in the Bible does the Hebrew God sanction, let alone command, polygamy." |
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306 (PB) |
"The Hebrews never considered polygamy a standard practice for the general populace." |
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307, 583-4n123-5 (PB) |
"Smith, Young, and other authorities of the LDS church further erred in believing that the New Testament teaches polygamy; more specifically, that Jesus and his apostles were polygamists. |
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308 (PB) |
The Book of Mormon condemns polygamy. |
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