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==Criticism==
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Critics charge that the LDS doctrine of a "premortal existence" is unChristian or unBiblical, and therefore false.
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===Source(s) of the Criticism===
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*“Persons and Pre-Mortality: The Mormon Doctrine of Preexistence,” in James Patrick Holding, ''The Mormon Defenders: How Latter-day Saint Apologists Misinterpret the Bible'' (self-published, 2001), at 53&mdash;61, with related endnotes at 144&mdash;145.
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==Response==
[[de:Plan der Erlösung/Vorirdisches Dasein]]
It is logical to believe in a pre-mortal existence. Without such a belief, that would mean that God created us on this earth for really no reason whatsoever, when He could have just created us in Heaven. He knew that many would not make it back to him, be subjected to pain, anguish, and many of us, because of our choices, would be damned and never enter into heaven. Why didn't He just create us in Heaven? If He didn't want anyone to suffer, or be cast off into hell, why did He create us here first? The pre-mortal doctrine answers all these questions. With such, we know we lived with Him once (Eccl. 12:7, Jer. 1:5, Titus 1:2, Job 38:4-7, Proverbs 8:23-30) and are here to be tested, to grow in Faith, and then will be rewarded with eternal life with Him. God is the Father of our spirits (Heb. 12:9, Num. 16:22, 27:16), not our bodies and spirit, but just spirit. If our spirits came from our Father first, where were they?
[[es:El plan de salvación/La existencia pre-mortal]]
John 9:2 says “Who did sin, this man or his parents that he was born blind?” Now how could a man sin and then be born, if there wasn’t a former place with choices and agency?
 
==Conclusion==
 
A summary of the argument against the criticism.
 
==Further reading==
 
===FAIR wiki articles===
 
===FAIR web site===
*{{tg|url=http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai005.html|topic=Pre-mortal life}}
* Kevin L. Barney, "On Preexistence in the Bible" {{fairlink|url=http://www.fairwiki.org/index.php?title=Image:PreExistenceBibleBarney.pdf&rcid=10170}}{{NB}}
*Barry Robert Bickmore, ''Restoring the Ancient Church,'' Chapter 3. {{fairlink|url=http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/restoring/chap03.html}}
* Allen Wyatt, "Preexistence and the Second Estate," ''Mormonism 201'' project. {{fairlink|url=http://www.fairlds.org/apol/morm201/m20104.html}}
 
===External links===
* {{FR-14-1-16}}
 
===Printed material===
*Printed resources whose text is not available online

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Source(s) of the criticism
Critical sources
  • Richard Abanes, Becoming Gods: A Closer Look at 21st-Century Mormonism (Harvest House Publishers: 2005). 130. ( Index of claims )
  • Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson, Mormonism 101. Examining the Religion of the Latter-day Saints (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Books, 2000), 67-69. ( Index of claims )
  • “Persons and Pre-Mortality: The Mormon Doctrine of Preexistence,” in James Patrick Holding, The Mormon Defenders: How Latter-day Saint Apologists Misinterpret the Bible (self-published, 2001), at 53—61, with related endnotes at 144—145.
Past responses
  • Barry R. Bickmore, Restoring the Ancient Church: Joseph Smith and Early Christianity (Redding, CA: Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research, 1999), [citation needed].
  • Barry Robert Bickmore, Restoring the Ancient Church: Joseph Smith and Early Christianity, 2nd edition (Redding, CA: Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research, 2013), [citation needed].
  • Richard R. Hopkins Biblical Mormonism (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers, 1994), [citation needed].
  • Truman G. Madsen in Eternal Man (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1966), [citation needed].
  • Joseph Fielding Smith in Man, His Origin and Destiny (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1954), [citation needed].
  • Boyd K. Packer in Our Father's Plan (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1984), [citation needed].
  • Brent L. Top The Life Before (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1988), [citation needed].

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