Template:Antispeak - Revision history

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Template%3AAntispeak Template:Antispeak - Revision history 2026-05-19T23:09:18Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.41.0 https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=129990&oldid=prev RogerNicholson at 04:14, 21 November 2014 2014-11-21T04:14:05Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:14, 21 November 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l37">Line 37:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 37:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|wishful thinking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Wishful thinking'''&mdash;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>Critics often come up with ideas on ex-Mormon message boards that represent "wishful thinking" that supports their idea that the Church is in decline.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|wishful thinking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Wishful thinking'''&mdash;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>Critics often come up with ideas on ex-Mormon message boards that represent "wishful thinking" that supports their idea that the Church is in decline.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|corporation=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is asserting that the Church is simply a corporation'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to portray the Church as a for-profit business.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|corporation=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is asserting that the Church is simply a corporation'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to portray the Church as a for-profit business.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misrepresent source=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The author has misrepresented the </del>source <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that he or she quotes</del>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The author has taken a citation and misrepresented what it says.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misrepresent source=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Misrepresentation of </ins>source'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The author has taken a citation and misrepresented what it says.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</font></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</font></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=129988&oldid=prev RogerNicholson at 04:13, 21 November 2014 2014-11-21T04:13:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:13, 21 November 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l37">Line 37:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 37:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|wishful thinking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Wishful thinking'''&mdash;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>Critics often come up with ideas on ex-Mormon message boards that represent "wishful thinking" that supports their idea that the Church is in decline.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|wishful thinking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Wishful thinking'''&mdash;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>Critics often come up with ideas on ex-Mormon message boards that represent "wishful thinking" that supports their idea that the Church is in decline.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|corporation=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is asserting that the Church is simply a corporation'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to portray the Church as a for-profit business.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|corporation=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is asserting that the Church is simply a corporation'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to portray the Church as a for-profit business.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|misrepresent source=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author has misrepresented the source that he or she quotes'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The author has taken a citation and misrepresented what it says.<br></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</font></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</font></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=129290&oldid=prev RogerNicholson at 20:49, 14 November 2014 2014-11-14T20:49:52Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:49, 14 November 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|liars=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is namecalling: liars''' &nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often assume or claim that LDS leaders or members are lying or dishonest. They do not consider or grant that even if they are in error, they might have made an error innocently or unintentionally. Any error (real or perceived) is evidence of ''lying''.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|liars=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is namecalling: liars''' &nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often assume or claim that LDS leaders or members are lying or dishonest. They do not consider or grant that even if they are in error, they might have made an error innocently or unintentionally. Any error (real or perceived) is evidence of ''lying''.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">critic </del>misunderstands the data'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">author seriously </ins>misunderstands the data'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make his or her point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make his or her point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=129289&oldid=prev RogerNicholson at 20:49, 14 November 2014 2014-11-14T20:49:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:49, 14 November 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|liars=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is namecalling: liars''' &nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often assume or claim that LDS leaders or members are lying or dishonest. They do not consider or grant that even if they are in error, they might have made an error innocently or unintentionally. Any error (real or perceived) is evidence of ''lying''.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|liars=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is namecalling: liars''' &nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often assume or claim that LDS leaders or members are lying or dishonest. They do not consider or grant that even if they are in error, they might have made an error innocently or unintentionally. Any error (real or perceived) is evidence of ''lying''.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Misunderstanding</del>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The critic misunderstands the data</ins>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make his or her point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make his or her point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=119236&oldid=prev RogerNicholson: m 2014-06-16T18:37:56Z

<p>m</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:37, 16 June 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|apologist=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Dismissal of apologists' use of new data as simply a desperate ploy'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When the facts don't stack up in the critics' favor, simply imply that apologists are executing a desperate ploy to try and distract you.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|apologist=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Dismissal of apologists' use of new data as simply a desperate ploy'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When the facts don't stack up in the critics' favor, simply imply that apologists are executing a desperate ploy to try and distract you.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|beg the question=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is begging the question''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics will often assume what they are trying to prove in how they frame questions or describe issues.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|beg the question=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is begging the question''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics will often assume what they are trying to prove in how they frame questions or describe issues.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|incomprehensible=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The argument is illogical'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic's argument makes absolutely no logical sense.<br></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| caricature=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Caricature believers' arguments'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Rather than accurately report and respond to a statement offered by a believer, the critic misrepresents it and then criticizes their own straw man version.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| caricature=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Caricature believers' arguments'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Rather than accurately report and respond to a statement offered by a believer, the critic misrepresents it and then criticizes their own straw man version.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| change opinion=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers aren't allowed to change their opinions''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;If believers don't abandon their faith because of the critics' arguments, they are "ignoring the evidence." When believers change their opinions as new data become available, the critics declare that this means the believers are being inconsistent or caving in.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| change opinion=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers aren't allowed to change their opinions''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;If believers don't abandon their faith because of the critics' arguments, they are "ignoring the evidence." When believers change their opinions as new data become available, the critics declare that this means the believers are being inconsistent or caving in.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=111738&oldid=prev RogerNicholson: m 2014-02-27T21:02:11Z

<p>m</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:02, 27 February 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">their </del>point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is using mocking language and hyperbole to try to make <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">his or her </ins>point'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=111737&oldid=prev RogerNicholson: m 2014-02-27T21:01:41Z

<p>m</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:01, 27 February 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|honest=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers not being honest'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics imply that if you do not accept their view, that you are "intellectually dishonest."<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mocking </del>language and hyperbole'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The author is using mocking </ins>language and hyperbole <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to try to make their point</ins>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''The author is making mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

RogerNicholson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/index.php?title=Template:Antispeak&diff=111735&oldid=prev RogerNicholson: m 2014-02-27T20:57:32Z

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<p>mod</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:42, 11 October 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| admit = <font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers "admitted" something'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics claim that apologists only "admit" facts, while critics "disclose the truth."<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| admit = <font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Believers "admitted" something'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics claim that apologists only "admit" facts, while critics "disclose the truth."<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|apologist=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Dismissal of apologists' use of new data as simply a desperate ploy'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When the facts don't stack up in the critics' favor, simply imply that apologists are executing a desperate ploy to try and distract you.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|apologist=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Dismissal of apologists' use of new data as simply a desperate ploy'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When the facts don't stack up in the critics' favor, simply imply that apologists are executing a desperate ploy to try and distract you.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|beg the question='''Begging the question''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics will often assume what they are trying to prove in how they frame questions or describe issues.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|beg the question=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;</ins>'''Begging the question''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics will often assume what they are trying to prove in how they frame questions or describe issues.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| caricature=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Caricature believers' arguments'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Rather than accurately report and respond to a statement offered by a believer, the critic misrepresents it and then criticizes their own straw man version.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| caricature=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Caricature believers' arguments'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Rather than accurately report and respond to a statement offered by a believer, the critic misrepresents it and then criticizes their own straw man version.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| change opinion='''Believers aren't allowed to change their opinions''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;If believers don't abandon their faith because of the critics' arguments, they are "ignoring the evidence." When believers change their opinions as new data become available, the critics declare that this means the believers are being inconsistent or caving in.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| change opinion=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;</ins>'''Believers aren't allowed to change their opinions''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;If believers don't abandon their faith because of the critics' arguments, they are "ignoring the evidence." When believers change their opinions as new data become available, the critics declare that this means the believers are being inconsistent or caving in.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|despair='''Believers are characterized to be in a state of "desperation" or "despair" or "grasping at straws"'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics wish to make it appear that believers are never on solid ground based upon facts and that any attempt to support their belief is an act of desperation or despair.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|despair=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;</ins>'''Believers are characterized to be in a state of "desperation" or "despair" or "grasping at straws"'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics wish to make it appear that believers are never on solid ground based upon facts and that any attempt to support their belief is an act of desperation or despair.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|doesn't count=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Doesn't count''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to claim the Church ''never'' or ''rarely'' does something, and then insist that every counter-example doesn't really count (if they mention them at all). This lets them ignore all evidence contrary to their position.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|doesn't count=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Doesn't count''':&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics like to claim the Church ''never'' or ''rarely'' does something, and then insist that every counter-example doesn't really count (if they mention them at all). This lets them ignore all evidence contrary to their position.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|ex-mormon=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Quotes from Ex-Mormon message board posts do not produce the best evidence'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Ex-mormon message board posts tend to let their rhetoric obscure facts.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|ex-mormon=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Quotes from Ex-Mormon message board posts do not produce the best evidence'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Ex-mormon message board posts tend to let their rhetoric obscure facts.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p>mod</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:23, 6 October 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|misunderstand=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Misunderstanding'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic either genuinely misunderstands an issue or feigns confusion, and then disputes his or her misunderstanding as if it were accurate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Mocking language and hyperbole'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mocking=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Mocking language and hyperbole'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;The critic intentionally exaggerates claims in order to mock believers.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. They hope we don't notice that an internally consistent story is not being told</del>.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|mutually exclusive=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Mutually exclusive claims:'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;When critics need an attack against the Church, ''any'' excuse will do, even if they are mutually self-contradictory: if one argument is true, the other cannot be.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|no mention=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Church never tells us'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics often claim the Church doesn't reveal or discuss something, when Church publications have discussed the matter, often at length and in detail.<br></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|not doctrine=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Not doctrine'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics make claims about what "the Church teaches" or what "I was taught," but these ideas are specifically repudiated by official sources.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|not doctrine=<font style="color: white; background: red">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Not doctrine'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>&mdash;Critics make claims about what "the Church teaches" or what "I was taught," but these ideas are specifically repudiated by official sources.<br></div></td></tr> </table>

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