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	\| title = Nicholson, Roger. "https://interpreterfoundation.org/journal/the-spectacles-the-stone-the-hat-and-the-book-a-twenty-first-century-believers-view-of-the-book-of-mormon-translation The Spectacles, the Stone, the Hat, and the Book: A Twenty-First Century Believer's View of the Book of Mormon Translation]." ''Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture'' 5 (2013): 5–121.		\| title = Nicholson, Roger. "[https://interpreterfoundation.org/journal/the-spectacles-the-stone-the-hat-and-the-book-a-twenty-first-century-believers-view-of-the-book-of-mormon-translation The Spectacles, the Stone, the Hat, and the Book: A Twenty-First Century Believer's View of the Book of Mormon Translation]." ''Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture'' 5 (2013): 5–121.
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	\| title = ===~~Question:~~ Did Joseph Smith use the Nephite interpreters to translate? Or did he use his own seer stone?===		\| title = ===Did Joseph Smith use the Nephite interpreters to translate? Or did he use his own seer stone?===
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	\| title = ===~~Question:~~ Has the Church tried to hide Joseph's use of a seer stone?===		\| title = ===Has the Church tried to hide Joseph's use of a seer stone?===
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	====The stone is mentioned occasionally in Church publications, but is rarely discussed in the 21st century in venues such as Sunday School====		====The stone is mentioned occasionally in Church publications, but is rarely discussed in the 21st century in venues such as Sunday School====
	{{Main\| Question: What Church sources discuss either the use of the seer stone or the stone and the hat as part of the Book of Mormon translation process?}}		{{Main\|Question: What Church sources discuss either the use of the seer stone or the stone and the hat as part of the Book of Mormon translation process?}}

	The stone is mentioned occasionally in Church publications, but is rarely (if ever) discussed in the 21st century in venues such as Sunday School, nor is it portrayed in any Church-related artwork. Part of the reason for this is the conflation of the Nephite interpreters and the seer stone under the name "Urim and Thummim." In church, we discuss the Urim and Thummim with the assumption that it is always the instrument that Joseph recovered with the plates. Only those familiar with the sources will realize that there was more than one translation instrument.		The stone is mentioned occasionally in Church publications, but is rarely (if ever) discussed in the 21st century in venues such as Sunday School, nor is it portrayed in any Church-related artwork. Part of the reason for this is the conflation of the Nephite interpreters and the seer stone under the name "Urim and Thummim." In church, we discuss the Urim and Thummim with the assumption that it is always the instrument that Joseph recovered with the plates. Only those familiar with the sources will realize that there was more than one translation instrument.
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	\|~~sublink11~~=Question: What does the Church teach investigators and members regarding the method by which the Book of Mormon was produced?		\|L11=Question: What does the Church teach investigators and members regarding the method by which the Book of Mormon was produced?
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